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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Split machine creation from the main loop
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:20:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6B5AC2.8050004@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D6B1E1D.2050801@codemonkey.ws>

On 02/28/2011 06:01 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> It would be a pity to divorce the monitor from chardevs, they're 
>>>> really flexible.
>>>
>>> Couple considerations:
>>>
>>> 1) chardevs don't support multiple simultaneous connections.  I view 
>>> this as a blocker for QMP.
>>
>> What do you mean by that?   Something like ,server which keeps on 
>> listening after it a connection is established?
>
> ,server won't allow multiple simultaneous connections.  
> CharDriverStates simply don't have a connection semantic.  There can 
> only be one thing connected to it at a time.  This is why we don't use 
> CharDriverState for VNC.

I meant an extension to ,server that keeps on listening.

>
> We should have another abstraction for connection based backend.  I'll 
> take a go at this when I'm ready to try to get those patches in.

Shouldn't each new connection return a chardev?

>
> Just to be clear though, there is a CharDriverState version of the new 
> QMP server.  This would be a second option for creating a QMP server 
> and it takes a different command line sytnax.
>
>>> 2) Because chardevs don't support multiple connections, we can't 
>>> reasonably hook on things like connect/disconnect which means that 
>>> fd's sent via SCM_RIGHTs have to be handled in a very special way.  
>>> By going outside of the chardev layer, we can let fd's via 
>>> SCM_RIGHTS queue up naturally and have getfd/setfd refer to the fd 
>>> at the top of the queue.  It makes it quite a bit easier to work 
>>> with (I believe Daniel had actually requested this a while ago).
>>
>> I really don't follow... what's the connection between SCM_RIGHTS and 
>> multiple connections?
>
> Monitors have a single fd.  That fd is associated with the monitor and 
> lives beyond the length of the connection to the monitor (recall that 
> chardevs don't have a notion of connection life cycle).  This means if 
> a management tool forgets to do a closefd on an unused fd, there's no 
> easy way for QEMU to automatically clean that up.  IOW, a crashed 
> management tool == fd leak in QEMU.

I guess we could add a close() event to chardev?

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-28  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-23 21:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Split machine creation from the main loop Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 23:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2011-02-23 23:12   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 23:38     ` Juan Quintela
2011-02-24  0:36       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 10:19         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-24 14:47           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 16:01     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:25       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 11:33         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28  4:01           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28  8:20             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-28  8:57               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-02-28  9:13                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 10:08                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-02-28 12:08                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-25 17:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl

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