From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38489 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PwOMn-0004qu-VW for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:32:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PwOMm-0000JT-Re for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:32:05 -0500 Received: from mail-gy0-f173.google.com ([209.85.160.173]:55366) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PwOMm-0000J8-KM for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:32:04 -0500 Received: by gyd8 with SMTP id 8so1837911gyd.4 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:32:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D742780.1050000@codemonkey.ws> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:32:00 -0600 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4D73B6CA.8070000@codemonkey.ws> <4D73C8CE.6080800@codemonkey.ws> <4D73CD43.1010004@web.de> <4D73F272.50105@codemonkey.ws> <4D73FA15.8090107@web.de> In-Reply-To: <4D73FA15.8090107@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 4/4] i8254: convert to qdev List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Jan Kiszka Cc: Blue Swirl , qemu-devel On 03/06/2011 03:18 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote: >> It's far from academic as this is user-visible and visible via the >> command line. >> > I thought it was stated before that there is no guarantee on the > internal structure of our device tree as the user may explore it (as > long as it's stable for the guest). We have a lot of "unstable" interfaces that folks yell about every time it changes (like the -help output). Providing a bad external interface and justifying by saying its unstable is just asking for pain later. > Regarding command line: What are > your worries here? The user can't mess with built-in devices. > -global still applies to no_user devices. > I still think we have more important things to improve than these > cosmetic issues. > What does converting this device to qdev actually add other than an interface that we're not going to be able to support long term? Regards, Anthony Liguori > Jan > >