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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Adam Litke <aglitke@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/22] QAPI Round 1
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:35:54 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D7630BA.4010609@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D760F2B.7030004@redhat.com>

On 03/08/2011 05:12 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/07/2011 05:59 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>>> How do async commands work?  You mentioned them when talking about
>>> QAPI but it's not obvious to me that there is any "native" support for
>>> async commands?
>>
>> Async commands are interesting..
>
> Would there be anything in them other than starting each command in 
> its own thread?  If it then drops the right locks it can execute in 
> parallel with other commands, if it doesn't, then it's synchronous 
> (and presumably doesn't depend on external or guest events).

I've implemented them (for virt-agent) and I'll have it in v2 of round 1.

I use callbacks.  If a function is marked to be async, it generates a 
signature like:

typedef void (GuestViewFileCompletionFunc)(void *qmp__opaque, const char 
* qmp__retval, Error *qmp__err);
void qmp_guest_view_file(const char * filename, Error **err, 
GuestViewFileCompletionFunc *qmp__cc, void *qmp__opaque);

The handler just needs to squirrel away qmp__cc and qmp__opaque and call 
it whenever the command completes.

>>
>> OTOH, there are users that will be purely event driven that will 
>> treat every RPC asynchronously.  In both cases, it's more or less 
>> all-or-nothing.  Having some commands delay for really long periods 
>> of time means that you either force users to treat some commands 
>> specially, or you force all users into an event driven model.
>>
>> And of course, if you have async commands,  you need to cancel 
>> commands, and then the context is within a single QMP session which 
>> means that you need to figure out what to do if you drop the session 
>> while an async command is executing.  For instance, if a management 
>> tool executes the migrate command, and it's implemented as an async 
>> command, if the management tool loses it's connection, should 
>> migration be automatically cancelled?
>
> Sounds reasonable.  The rules could be:
> - a command (all commands are async) takes a ref on the monitor context
> - if the session is dropped, call the current command's cancel callback
>
> as a result, a dropped session causes the command to either cancel or 
> complete.

Yup, this is pretty much what I'm now doing.

>> I'm really on the fence about async commands.  At the moment, I'm 
>> leaning towards just not every implementing them.
>
> Do we have a list of candidates for async commands?

Yeah, all of the guest commands need to be asynchronous so we definitely 
need to support it.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-08 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-07  1:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/22] QAPI Round 1 Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] Add hard build dependency on glib Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 10:59   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:55     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] qerror: expose a function to format an error Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:38     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] qapi: add Error object Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:06   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:59     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:24     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:55       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] qerror: split out the reporting bits of QError Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] qerror: add new error message for invalid enum values Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] qapi: add JSON parsing error message Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] json: propagate error from parser Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] qapi: add code generator for qmp-types Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:57   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] qapi: add code generator for type marshallers Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] qapi: add core QMP server support Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:39     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:46       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:54         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] qapi: add signal support to core QMP server Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:36       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 14:41         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] qapi: add QAPI module type Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] qapi: add code generators for QMP command marshaling Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:44     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] qapi: add query-version QMP command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:35   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:41     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:28       ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:44         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:51           ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:13             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:36   ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:11     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 14:37       ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 12:41           ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 12:46             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 13:52             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] qapi: add new QMP server that uses CharDriverState Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 14:02     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] vl: add a new -qmp2 option to expose experimental QMP server Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] qapi: add QMP quit command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] qapi: add QMP qmp_capabilities command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] qapi: add QMP put-event command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:31   ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:48     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:58       ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:26         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 12:39           ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 14:12             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 14:24               ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:30                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:41                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 15:49                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 16:42                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-12 20:37                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:33                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 15:45                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 16:04                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-12 20:42                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-12 23:30                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] qapi: add code generator for libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] qapi: add test-libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] qapi: generate HTML report for test-libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  2:11   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: qmp-types.c and qmp-types.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: qmp-marshal-types.c and qmp-marshal-types.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: add qmp-marshal.c and qmp.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07  1:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: add libqmp.c and libqmp.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/22] QAPI Round 1 Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 15:59   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 11:12     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 13:35       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-03-08 13:45         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 13:54           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:00             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 14:10               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:17                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 14:20                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:38                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:52                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 15:03                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 17:44                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 19:19                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09  8:51                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:12                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:14                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:51                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:55                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:15                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:51                                   ` Michael Roth
2011-03-07 20:59   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 22:00     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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