From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] qapi: add query-version QMP command
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:47:04 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D7792E8.4020402@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D77909B.90800@redhat.com>
On 03/09/2011 08:37 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/09/2011 04:11 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> (just picking on a patch that has a bit of schema in it)
>>
>>
>> If you want to see more of the schema in action
>> http://repo.or.cz/w/qemu/aliguori.git/blob/refs/heads/glib:/qmp-schema.json
>
> Thanks. Something a little worrying is the reliance on capitalization
> and punctuation ( {} vs [] ) do distinguish among the different types
> of declarations. It's not immediately clear if something is a type,
> event, or command.
>
> We could do
>
> [
>
> { 'type': 'MyType', fields: [['a', 'str'], ['b', 'int'], ['c',
> 'AnotherType']] }
> { 'event': 'MY_EVENT', 'arguments': [ ... ] }
> { 'command': 'my-command', 'arguments': [ ... ], 'return': ... }
>
> ]
>
> which leaves us room for additional metainformation.
>
> The concern is more about non-qemu consumers of the schema.
Yeah, I dislike it too and I've been leaning towards changing it.
My preference would be:
{ 'type': 'MyType', 'fields': { 'a': 'str', 'b': 'int', 'c':
'AnotherType' } }
{ 'event': 'MY_EVENT', 'arguments': {...} }
{ 'command': 'my-command', 'arguments': {...}, 'returns': 'int' }
I do prefer the dictionary syntax for arguments over a list because a
list implies order. Plus I think the syntax is just awkward and a whole
lot easier to get wrong (too many/few elements in list).
I don't think I want to make this sort of change just yet. Also note
that the schema that will be exposed over the wire is not directly
related to the schema we use for code generation.
>>> Something that can be added to the schema are default values for
>>> newly added parameters. This way we can avoid an explosion of
>>> commands where adding an optional parameter suffices; should be
>>> easier for the user to pick the right command and easier for us to
>>> document and support.
>>
>> Adding a parameter to a command, even if the schema specifies a
>> default value, is going to break the C library ABI so it's something
>> we should strongly discourage.
>
> We could add compatibility signatures when we extend a command:
>
>
> { 'command': 'x', arguments: [['a', 'str']], return: ...,
> 'signatures': { 'x': [], 'x2': ['a'] } }
>
> That lets the wire protocol extend x without introducing a new
> command, but for libqmp it adds a new x2() API with the new parameter.
I'd rather just not add arguments.
Treating QMP as a C API makes it easier for us to maintain compatibility
both internally and externally.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-07 1:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/22] QAPI Round 1 Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] Add hard build dependency on glib Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 10:59 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] qerror: expose a function to format an error Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] qapi: add Error object Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 11:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] qerror: split out the reporting bits of QError Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] qerror: add new error message for invalid enum values Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] qapi: add JSON parsing error message Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] json: propagate error from parser Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] qapi: add code generator for qmp-types Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] qapi: add code generator for type marshallers Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] qapi: add core QMP server support Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:46 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-07 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] qapi: add signal support to core QMP server Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 14:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] qapi: add QAPI module type Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] qapi: add code generators for QMP command marshaling Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 14:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] qapi: add query-version QMP command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:47 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-03-10 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 13:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] qapi: add new QMP server that uses CharDriverState Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 13:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] vl: add a new -qmp2 option to expose experimental QMP server Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] qapi: add QMP quit command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] qapi: add QMP qmp_capabilities command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] qapi: add QMP put-event command Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 14:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 14:24 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 15:49 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 16:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-12 20:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 15:45 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 16:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-12 20:42 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-12 23:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] qapi: add code generator for libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] qapi: add test-libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] qapi: generate HTML report for test-libqmp Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 2:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: qmp-types.c and qmp-types.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: qmp-marshal-types.c and qmp-marshal-types.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: add qmp-marshal.c and qmp.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 1:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qapi: add libqmp.c and libqmp.h Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/22] QAPI Round 1 Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-07 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 13:45 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 14:52 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 15:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-08 17:44 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08 19:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 8:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-09 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-09 13:51 ` Michael Roth
2011-03-07 20:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-07 22:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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