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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>,
	Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: RFC: emulation of system flash
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:19:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D796A8E.6000204@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D794C56.6020809@gmx.net>

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On 2011-03-10 23:10, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
> Auf 10.03.2011 22:55, Jordan Justen schrieb:
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 13:37, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
>> <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net> wrote:
>>   
>>> Auf 10.03.2011 05:51, Jordan Justen schrieb:
>>>     
>>>> I have documented a simple flash-like device which I think could be
>>>> useful for qemu/kvm in some cases.  (Particularly for allowing
>>>> persistent UEFI non-volatile variables.)
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/System_Flash
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any suggestions or concerns.
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> Is there any reason why you chose to invent an interface for the flash
>>> chip which is more complicated than the interface used by common flash
>>> chips out there?
>>> Maybe some EFI requirement?
>>>     
>> This is a simpler version than the flash devices I'm used to dealing
>> with for x86/x86-64 UEFI systems.  Can you suggest an alternative real
>> interface that is simpler?
>>   
> 
> Pseudocode for the real interface most common on x86 before SPI came along:
> 
> Write a page (256 bytes) or a few bytes:
> chip_writeb(0xAA, bios_base + 0x5555);
> chip_writeb(0x55, bios_base + 0x2AAA);
> chip_writeb(0xA0, bios_base + 0x5555);
> chip_writeb(databyte0, bios_base + addr);
> chip_writeb(databyte1, bios_base + addr + 1);
> chip_writeb(databyte2, bios_base + addr + 2);
> chip_writeb(databyte3, bios_base + addr + 3);
> ... up to 256 databytes.
> chip_readb(bios_base);
> The last chip_readb(bios_base) is repeated until the result does not
> change anymore.

Hmm, I may oversee some subtle difference, but this looks pretty much
like CFI to me (see hw/pflash_cfi02.c).

At least it's an in-band interface, which is the better choice as we
currently only have a PIIX3 southbridge for x86, predating even FWHs.

Jan


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-11  0:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-10  4:51 [Qemu-devel] RFC: emulation of system flash Jordan Justen
2011-03-10  9:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-03-10 18:43   ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 21:52     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-10 22:14       ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 22:31         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-10 22:58           ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 23:41             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-11  2:12               ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10  9:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-03-10 11:27   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-03-10 11:46     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-03-10 11:53       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-03-10 12:07         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-03-10 19:03       ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 19:23         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-10 20:05           ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 11:48     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-03-10 12:06       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-03-10 12:17         ` Gleb Natapov
2011-03-10 12:27           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-03-10 19:08             ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 19:13               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-03-10 21:46         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-10 22:11           ` Scott Wood
2011-03-10 21:41       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-10 22:05         ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 18:59   ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 19:12     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-03-10 19:50       ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 20:08         ` Антон Кочков
2011-03-10 20:21         ` Gleb Natapov
2011-03-11 21:41           ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-14 14:29             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-03-10 21:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-10 21:55   ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 22:10     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-10 22:29       ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-10 23:53         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-11  0:19       ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-03-11  0:27         ` [Qemu-devel] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2011-03-11 19:09           ` Jordan Justen
2011-03-11 23:10             ` Michal Suchanek
2011-03-12  9:24             ` Jan Kiszka

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