From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Dushyant Bansal <cs5070214@cse.iitd.ac.in>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for Jan 25
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:27:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D7F3EFC.3050106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D7E309B.6080800@cse.iitd.ac.in>
Am 14.03.2011 16:13, schrieb Dushyant Bansal:
>>
>> Nice that qemu-img convert isn't that far out by default on raw :).
>>
>> About Google Summer of Code, I have posted my take on applying and
>> want to share that with you and qemu-devel:
>>
>> http://blog.vmsplice.net/2011/03/advice-for-students-applying-to-google.html
>>
> Thanks for sharing your experiences.
>
> After reading about qcow2 and qed and how they organize data (thanks to
> the newly added qcow2 doc and discussions on the mailing list), this is
> what I understand.
>
> So, the main difference between qed and qcow2 is the absence of
> reference count structure in qed(means less meta data).
> It improves performance due to:
> 1. For write operations, less or no metadata to update.
> 2. Data write and metadata write can be in any order
>
> This also means these features are no longer supported:
> 1. Internal snapshots,
> 2. CPU/device state snapshots,
> 3. Compression,
> 4. Encryption
>
> Now, coming to qed<-->qcow2 conversion, I want to clarify some things.
>
> 1. header_size: variable in qed, equals to cluster size in qcow2:
> When will it be larger than 1 cluster in qed? So, what will happen to
> that extra data on qed->qcow2 conversion.
If you have an feature that is used in the original image, but cannot be
represented in the new format, I think you should just get an error.
> 2. L2 table size: equals to L1 table size in qed, equals to cluster size
> in qcow2:
> we need to take it into account during conversion.
Right. I think we'll have to rewrite all of the metadata.
I wonder if we can manage to have a nice block driver interface for
in-place image conversions so that we don't only get a qed<->qcow2
converter, but also can implement the interface in e.g. VMDK and get
VMDK<->qcow2 and VMDK<->qed as well.
> 3. refcount table:
> qcow2->qed:we do not keep refcount structure
> qed->qcow2: initialize refcount structure
Yes, refcounts can be rebuilt after the mapping has been converted.
> So, a qcow2->qed->qcow2 conversion means if earlier, qcow2 image was
> using additional features{1-4}, all information related to that will be
> lost.
We shouldn't lose anything but just abort if a conversion isn't
possible. The user can still use qemu-img convert for the more
complicated cases, for example for removing encryption or compression.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-15 10:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-24 13:25 [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for Jan 25 Chris Wright
2011-01-24 22:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 13:57 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-01-25 14:02 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-01-25 14:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-01-29 10:50 ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-01-29 13:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-25 17:42 ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-02-26 14:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-26 21:50 ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-02-27 10:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-28 7:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-28 20:41 ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-03-01 9:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-14 15:13 ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-03-15 10:27 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2011-03-16 14:17 ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-03-16 17:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-17 10:07 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-26 21:56 ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-03-28 10:26 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-01-25 14:11 ` Aurelien Jarno
2011-01-25 14:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 14:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-01-25 15:29 ` Aurelien Jarno
2011-01-25 14:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-25 14:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-01-26 9:58 ` Avi Kivity
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