From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Chunqiang Tang <ctang@us.ibm.com>,
Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Moving beyond image files
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:05:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D876930.6000106@us.ibm.com> (raw)
We've been evaluating block migration in a real environment to try to
understand what the overhead of it is compared to normal migration. The
results so far are pretty disappointing. The speed of local disks ends
up becoming a big bottleneck even before the network does.
This has got me thinking about what we could do to avoid local I/O via
deduplication and other techniques. This has led me to wonder if its
time to move beyond simple image files into something a bit more
sophisticated.
Ideally, I'd want a full Content Addressable Storage database like Venti
but there are lots of performance concerns with something like that.
I've been thinking about a middle ground and am looking for some
feedback. Here's my current thinking:
1) All block I/O goes through a daemon. There may be more than one
daemon to support multi-tenancy.
2) The daemon maintains metadata for each image that includes an extent
mapping and then a clustered allocated bitmap within each extent
(similar to FVD).
At this point, it's basically sparse raw but through a single daemon.
3) All writes result in a sha1 being calculated before the write is
completed. The daemon maintains a mapping of sha1's -> clusters. A
single sha1 may map to many clusters. The sha1 mapping can be made
eventually consistent using a journal or even dirty bitmap. It can be
partially rebuilt easily.
I think this is where v1 stops. With just this level of functionality,
I think we have some very interesting properties:
a) Performance should be pretty close to raw
b) Without doing any (significant) disk I/O, we know exactly what data
an image is composed of. This means we can do an rsync style image
streaming that uses potentially much less network I/O and potentially
much less disk I/O.
In a v2, I think you can add some interesting features that take
advantage of the hashing. For instance:
4) If you run out of disk space, you can looking at a hash with a
refcount > 1, and split off a reference making it copy-on-write. Then
you can treat the remaining references as free list entries.
5) Copy-on-write references potentially become very interesting for
image streaming because you can avoid any I/O for blocks that are
already stored locally.
This is not fully baked yet but I thought I'd at least throw it out
there as a topic for discussion. I think we've focused almost entirely
on single images so I think it's worth thinking a little about different
storage models.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next reply other threads:[~2011-03-21 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-21 15:05 Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-03-21 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] Moving beyond image files Alexander Graf
2011-03-21 16:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-21 21:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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