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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, Tyler C Hicks <tchicks@us.ibm.com>,
	Corey Bryant <bryntcor@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add support for fd: protocol
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:28:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDA6EFA.9040501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=0TsoibXTyC6BANFTQKeSCfGAPpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 20.05.2011 21:53, schrieb Blue Swirl:
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>> On 05/20/2011 02:25 PM, Blue Swirl wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Corey Bryant<bryntcor@us.ibm.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> sVirt provides SELinux MAC isolation for Qemu guest processes and their
>>>> corresponding resources (image files). sVirt provides this support
>>>> by labeling guests and resources with security labels that are stored
>>>> in file system extended attributes. Some file systems, such as NFS, do
>>>> not support the extended attribute security namespace, which is needed
>>>> for image file isolation when using the sVirt SELinux security driver
>>>> in libvirt.
>>>>
>>>> The proposed solution entails a combination of Qemu, libvirt, and
>>>> SELinux patches that work together to isolate multiple guests' images
>>>> when they're stored in the same NFS mount. This results in an
>>>> environment where sVirt isolation and NFS image file isolation can both
>>>> be provided.
>>>
>>> Very nice. QEMU should use this to support privilege separation. We
>>> already have chroot and runas switches, a new switch should convert
>>> all file references to fd references internally for that process. If
>>> this can be made transparent, this should even be the default way of
>>> operation.
>>
>> You mean, QEMU starts up, opens all disk images, reinvokes itself in a
>> confined context, and then passes fds to the child?
> 
> And exit after that, or do the same without forking.
> 
> This wouldn't work now for the native CDROM devices which need to
> reopen the device. For that, an explicit reopen method could be added.
> The method could even chat with the privileged process to get that to
> do the reopening, but I'd leave that to libvirt and fail without it
> for plain QEMU.

There are more cases where we reopen the image file. One example is the
'commit' monitor command which temporarily reopens the backing file r/w.
Or Christoph's patch that allows guests to toggle the write-cache
enabled bit. Same for live snapshots. So we'll need a solution for them
before doing anything like this.

And breaking qemu without libvirt isn't really an option for me.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-23 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-20 18:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add support for fd: protocol Corey Bryant
2011-05-20 19:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 19:25 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-20 19:42   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 19:53     ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-23 14:28       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2011-05-23 15:24         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 15:56           ` Kevin Wolf
2011-05-23 19:50             ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-23 21:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 18:20           ` Corey Bryant
2011-05-23  9:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 10:19   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-23 10:30     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 12:59       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 14:35         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 22:49           ` Jamie Lokier
2011-05-24  8:39             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-24 15:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2011-05-23 12:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 13:06     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 13:09     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-23 13:21       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 13:26         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-23 13:42           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23  9:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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