From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: json: Fix parsing of integers >= 0x8000000000000000
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:24:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDA7C17.6020208@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110523151948.GJ27503@amd.home.annexia.org>
On 05/23/2011 10:19 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:07:21AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 05/23/2011 09:29 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws> writes:
>>>
>>> JavaScript's implementation of JSON sets limits on the range of numbers,
>>> namely they need to fit into IEEE doubles.
>>>
>>> Our implementation sets different limits. IIRC, it's something like
>>> "numbers with a fractional part or an exponent need to fit into IEEE
>>> doubles, anything else into int64_t." Not exactly the acme of elegance,
>>> either. But it works for us.
>>
>> In order to be compatible with JavaScript (which I think is
>> necessary to really satisfy the spec), we just need to make sure
>> that our integers are represented by at least 53-bits (to enable
>> signed integers) and critically, fall back to floating point
>> representation to ensure that we round instead of truncate.
>
> The problem is to be able to send 64 bit memory and disk offsets
> faithfully. This doesn't just fail to solve the problem, it's
> actually going to make it a whole lot worse.
>
> I don't agree with you that whatever the JSON standard (RFC) doesn't
> specify must be filled in by reading Javascript/ECMA.
" It is derived from the object
literals of JavaScript, as defined in the ECMAScript Programming
Language Standard, Third Edition [ECMA]."
> If this is so
> important, it's very odd that it doesn't mention this fallback in the
> RFC. If you read the RFC alone then it's pretty clear (to me) that it
> leaves limits up to the application.
If it's left up to the application, doesn't that mean that we can't ever
send 64-bit memory/disk faithfully?
Because a client would be allowed to represent integers as signed 32-bit
numbers.
Fundamentally, we need to ask ourselves, do we want to support any JSON
client or require JSON libraries explicitly written for QEMU?
What I suggested would let us work with any JSON client, but if clients
loose precision after 53-bits, those clients would not work well with QEMU.
The alternative approach is to be conservative and only use 32-bit
integers and represent everything in two numbers.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Rich.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-23 15:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-20 18:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: json: Fix parsing of integers >= 0x8000000000000000 Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-20 18:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 18:36 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-20 18:37 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-20 18:47 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-20 21:19 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-23 13:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 13:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 13:39 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-23 13:40 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 14:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 15:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 15:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 14:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 13:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 14:02 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-05-23 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 14:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 14:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 14:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 15:19 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-23 15:24 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-05-23 15:29 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-23 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 16:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 15:38 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 16:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-24 6:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 23:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Use a hex string (was: [PATCH] qemu: json: Fix parsing of integers >= 0x8000000000000000) Jamie Lokier
2011-05-24 2:50 ` [Qemu-devel] Use a hex string Anthony Liguori
2011-05-24 5:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2011-05-23 13:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: json: Fix parsing of integers >= 0x8000000000000000 Anthony Liguori
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