From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
wuzhy@cn.ibm.com, herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au,
Joe Thornber <ejt@redhat.com>,
Zhi Yong Wu <wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
luowenj@cn.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, zhanx@cn.ibm.com,
zhaoyang@cn.ibm.com, llim@redhat.com,
Ryan A Harper <raharper@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU disk I/O limits
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:39:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DE535F3.6040400@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110531175955.GI16382@redhat.com>
On 05/31/2011 12:59 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 09:25:31AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 05/31/2011 09:04 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 08:50:40AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>> On 05/31/2011 08:45 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 01:09:23PM +0800, Zhi Yong Wu wrote:
>>>>>> Hello, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have prepared to work on a feature called "Disk I/O limits" for qemu-kvm projeect.
>>>>>> This feature will enable the user to cap disk I/O amount performed by a VM.It is important for some storage resources to be shared among multi-VMs. As you've known, if some of VMs are doing excessive disk I/O, they will hurt the performance of other VMs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Zhiyong,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not use kernel blkio controller for this and why reinvent the wheel
>>>>> and implement the feature again in qemu?
>>>>
>>>> blkio controller only works for block devices. It doesn't work when
>>>> using files.
>>>
>>> So can't we comeup with something to easily determine which device backs
>>> up this file? Though that will still not work for NFS backed storage
>>> though.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> Additionally, in QEMU, we can rate limit based on concepts that make
>> sense to a guest. We can limit the actual I/O ops visible to the
>> guest which means that we'll get consistent performance regardless
>> of whether the backing file is qcow2, raw, LVM, or raw over NFS.
>>
>
> Are you referring to merging taking place which can change the definition
> of IOPS as seen by guest?
No, with qcow2, it may take multiple real IOPs for what the guest sees
as an IOP.
That's really the main argument I'm making here. The only entity that
knows what a guest IOP corresponds to is QEMU. On the backend, it may
end up being a network request, multiple BIOs to physical disks, file
access, etc.
That's why QEMU is the right place to do the throttling for this use
case. That doesn't mean device level throttling isn't useful but just
that for virtualization, it makes more sense to do it in QEMU.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-31 18:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-30 5:09 [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU disk I/O limits Zhi Yong Wu
2011-05-31 13:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 13:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 14:04 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 14:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 17:59 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 18:39 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-05-31 19:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 23:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-01 13:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-01 21:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-01 21:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-01 22:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-04 8:54 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-31 20:48 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-31 22:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 13:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-31 14:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 14:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-31 14:28 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 15:28 ` Ryan Harper
2011-05-31 19:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-01 3:12 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-02 9:33 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-03 6:56 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-01 3:19 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-01 13:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-02 6:07 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-02 6:17 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-02 6:29 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-02 7:15 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-02 8:18 ` Zhi Yong Wu
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