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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	jdenemar@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QMP: RFC: I/O error info & query-stop-reason
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 08:09:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DECD198.8020206@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3zklv9p4q.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On 06/06/2011 06:27 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Kevin Wolf<kwolf@redhat.com>  writes:
>
>> Am 02.06.2011 20:09, schrieb Luiz Capitulino:
>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:00:04 -0500
>>> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/02/2011 12:57 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:35:03 -0500
>>>>> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/01/2011 04:12 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are people who want to use QMP for thin provisioning. That's, the VM is
>>>>>>> started with a small storage and when a no space error is triggered, more space
>>>>>>> is allocated and the VM is put to run again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> QMP has two limitations that prevent people from doing this today:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The BLOCK_IO_ERROR doesn't contain error information
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Considering we solve item 1, we still have to provide a way for clients
>>>>>>>       to query why a VM stopped. This is needed because clients may miss the
>>>>>>>       BLOCK_IO_ERROR event or may connect to the VM while it's already stopped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A proposal to solve both problems follow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A. BLOCK_IO_ERROR information
>>>>>>> -----------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We already have discussed this a lot, but didn't reach a consensus. My solution
>>>>>>> is quite simple: to add a stringfied errno name to the BLOCK_IO_ERROR event,
>>>>>>> for example (see the "reason" key):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> { "event": "BLOCK_IO_ERROR",
>>>>>>>       "data": { "device": "ide0-hd1",
>>>>>>>                 "operation": "write",
>>>>>>>                 "action": "stop",
>>>>>>>                 "reason": "enospc", }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can call the reason whatever you want, but don't call it stringfied
>>>>>> errno name :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact, just make reason "no space".
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean, we should do:
>>>>>
>>>>>     "reason": "no space"
>>>>>
>>>>> Or that we should make it a boolean, like:
>>>>>
>>>>>    "no space": true
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do we need reason in BLOCK_IO_ERROR if query-block returns this information?
>>>
>>> True, no.
>>>
>>>>> I'm ok with either way. But in case you meant the second one, I guess
>>>>> we should make "reason" a dictionary so that we can group related
>>>>> information when we extend the field, for example:
>>>>>
>>>>>    "reason": { "no space": false, "no permission": true }
>>
>> Splitting up enums into a number of booleans looks like a bad idea to
>> me. It makes things more verbose than they should be, and even worse, it
>> implies that more than one field could be true.
>>
>> If this new schema thing doesn't support proper enums, that's something
>> that should be changed.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would we ever have "no permission"?
>>>
>>> It's an I/O error. I have a report from a developer who was getting
>>> the BLOCK_IO_ERROR event and had to debug qemu to know the error cause,
>>> it turned out to be no permission.
>>
>> And I want to add that it's a PITA to handle bug report when the only
>> message you get from qemu is "something went wrong". Sorry, that's not
>> useful at all. I want to see the real error reason (and at least for
>> debugging this means, I want to see the errno value/string).
>
> And I want it straight, not wrapped in a pile of pseudo-abstractions
> that make me go to the source code to figure out how to unwrap them.

A set of default logged trace points would be perfect, no?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> [...]
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-06 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01 21:12 [Qemu-devel] QMP: RFC: I/O error info & query-stop-reason Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-01 21:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02  9:06   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-02 13:08     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 13:24       ` Jiri Denemark
2011-06-02 14:02         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 18:01           ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 18:32             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 18:57               ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 19:35                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03  9:26             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-03 12:43               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 12:57                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-03 13:26                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 13:39                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-03 13:44                       ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-03 14:01                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 13:41                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-03 13:51                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 13:59                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-03 14:03                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-06 11:21           ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-02 17:57   ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 18:00     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 18:09       ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 18:33         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 19:13           ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 20:03             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 20:13               ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2011-06-02 20:55                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-06  9:25         ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2011-06-06 11:27           ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-06 13:09             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-06-06 13:08           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-06 15:27             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-06 15:30               ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-08 12:59                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-07 14:46             ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-07 15:39               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-07 15:54                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-07 16:32                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-07 17:43                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-07 18:43                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-07 18:48                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-07 15:41               ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-07 16:31                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-06 11:13   ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-06 11:28     ` Markus Armbruster

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