From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
jdenemar@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QMP: RFC: I/O error info & query-stop-reason
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 08:09:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DECD198.8020206@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3zklv9p4q.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
On 06/06/2011 06:27 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Kevin Wolf<kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> Am 02.06.2011 20:09, schrieb Luiz Capitulino:
>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:00:04 -0500
>>> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/02/2011 12:57 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:35:03 -0500
>>>>> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/01/2011 04:12 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are people who want to use QMP for thin provisioning. That's, the VM is
>>>>>>> started with a small storage and when a no space error is triggered, more space
>>>>>>> is allocated and the VM is put to run again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> QMP has two limitations that prevent people from doing this today:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The BLOCK_IO_ERROR doesn't contain error information
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Considering we solve item 1, we still have to provide a way for clients
>>>>>>> to query why a VM stopped. This is needed because clients may miss the
>>>>>>> BLOCK_IO_ERROR event or may connect to the VM while it's already stopped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A proposal to solve both problems follow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A. BLOCK_IO_ERROR information
>>>>>>> -----------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We already have discussed this a lot, but didn't reach a consensus. My solution
>>>>>>> is quite simple: to add a stringfied errno name to the BLOCK_IO_ERROR event,
>>>>>>> for example (see the "reason" key):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> { "event": "BLOCK_IO_ERROR",
>>>>>>> "data": { "device": "ide0-hd1",
>>>>>>> "operation": "write",
>>>>>>> "action": "stop",
>>>>>>> "reason": "enospc", }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can call the reason whatever you want, but don't call it stringfied
>>>>>> errno name :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact, just make reason "no space".
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean, we should do:
>>>>>
>>>>> "reason": "no space"
>>>>>
>>>>> Or that we should make it a boolean, like:
>>>>>
>>>>> "no space": true
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do we need reason in BLOCK_IO_ERROR if query-block returns this information?
>>>
>>> True, no.
>>>
>>>>> I'm ok with either way. But in case you meant the second one, I guess
>>>>> we should make "reason" a dictionary so that we can group related
>>>>> information when we extend the field, for example:
>>>>>
>>>>> "reason": { "no space": false, "no permission": true }
>>
>> Splitting up enums into a number of booleans looks like a bad idea to
>> me. It makes things more verbose than they should be, and even worse, it
>> implies that more than one field could be true.
>>
>> If this new schema thing doesn't support proper enums, that's something
>> that should be changed.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would we ever have "no permission"?
>>>
>>> It's an I/O error. I have a report from a developer who was getting
>>> the BLOCK_IO_ERROR event and had to debug qemu to know the error cause,
>>> it turned out to be no permission.
>>
>> And I want to add that it's a PITA to handle bug report when the only
>> message you get from qemu is "something went wrong". Sorry, that's not
>> useful at all. I want to see the real error reason (and at least for
>> debugging this means, I want to see the errno value/string).
>
> And I want it straight, not wrapped in a pile of pseudo-abstractions
> that make me go to the source code to figure out how to unwrap them.
A set of default logged trace points would be perfect, no?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> [...]
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-06 13:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-01 21:12 [Qemu-devel] QMP: RFC: I/O error info & query-stop-reason Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-01 21:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 9:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-02 13:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 13:24 ` Jiri Denemark
2011-06-02 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 18:01 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 18:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 18:57 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 19:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 9:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-03 12:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 12:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-03 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 13:39 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-03 13:44 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-03 14:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 13:41 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-03 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-03 13:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-03 14:03 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-06 11:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-02 17:57 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 18:09 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 18:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 19:13 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-02 20:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-02 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2011-06-02 20:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-06 9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2011-06-06 11:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-06 13:09 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-06-06 13:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-06 15:27 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-06 15:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-08 12:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-07 14:46 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-07 15:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-07 15:54 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-07 16:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-07 17:43 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-07 18:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-07 18:48 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-06-07 15:41 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-07 16:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-06 11:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-06 11:28 ` Markus Armbruster
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