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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Juha Riihimäki" <juha.riihimaki@nokia.com>,
	"patches@linaro.org" <patches@linaro.org>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Paul Brook" <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/3] basic support for composing sysbus devices
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:12:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DF4F371.90003@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DF23BB7.9050606@us.ibm.com>

On 06/10/2011 06:43 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> What exactly is so very wrong about buses that they need to die?
>
> They force a device tree.  The device model shouldn't be a tree, but a 
> directed graph. 

Right.  As an example, you configure PCI interrupt routing and the 
memory controller by writing to a PCI device, which logically doesn't 
have access to any of this stuff if it's behind the PCI bus.

However, I don't think buses should die.  They should be available as an 
easy way to model the devices that do follow the rules.  But we should 
also expose everything else for the exceptional cases.

> It's perfectly fine to have a type called PCIBus that I440FX extends, 
> but qdev shouldn't have explicit knowledge of something called a "bus" 
> IMHO.  Doing this forces a limited mechanism of connecting devices 
> because it creates an artificial tree (by implying a parent/child 
> relationship).  It makes composition difficult if not impossible.

I think qdev buses are useful as long as they don't enforce their 
interfaces.  That is, a qdev that is a child of a qbus has access to the 
qbus's interfaces, but also access to other stuff.  That makes the easy 
devices easy and the hard ones possible.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-12 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-08 11:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/3] basic support for composing sysbus devices Peter Maydell
2011-06-08 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/3] sysbus: Add support for resizing and unmapping MMIOs Peter Maydell
2011-06-08 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/3] sysbus: Allow sysbus MMIO passthrough Peter Maydell
2011-06-08 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/3] sysbus: Allow passthrough of single IRQ Peter Maydell
2011-06-08 12:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/3] basic support for composing sysbus devices Jan Kiszka
2011-06-09 16:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-09 17:03     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-10  8:13       ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-10 12:51         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-10 13:10           ` Peter Maydell
2011-06-10 13:43             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-10 13:50               ` Peter Maydell
2011-06-10 14:22                 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-10 14:45                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-10 14:34                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-10 14:12               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-10 14:18                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-10 14:31                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-10 14:07             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-10 14:59           ` Markus Armbruster
2011-06-10 15:43             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-12 17:12               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-06-12 19:21                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-13  8:05                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-13 17:53                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-13 20:59                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-06-14 13:21                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-15 18:56                       ` Blue Swirl
2011-06-15 20:00                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-15 20:20                           ` Blue Swirl
2011-06-20 15:23                             ` Paul Brook
2011-06-20 21:32                               ` Blue Swirl
2011-06-21  8:16                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-27  2:26                                 ` Paul Brook
2011-06-13  9:57             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-06-10 16:28           ` Andreas Färber

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