From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>,
agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
jes sorensen <jes.sorensen@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Image streaming and live block copy
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:10:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DFA00BF.5030605@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DF9F899.5050301@redhat.com>
On 06/16/2011 07:35 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 14.06.2011 20:18, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>> Overview
>> --------
>>
>> This patch series adds image streaming support for QED image files. Other
>> image formats can also be supported in the future.
>>
>> Image streaming populates the file in the background while the guest is
>> running. This makes it possible to start the guest before its image file has
>> been fully provisioned.
>>
>> Example use cases include:
>> * Providing small virtual appliances for download that can be launched
>> immediately but provision themselves in the background.
>> * Reducing guest provisioning time by creating local image files but backing
>> them with shared master images which will be streamed.
>>
>> When image streaming is enabled, the unallocated regions of the image file are
>> populated with the data from the backing file. This occurs in the background
>> and the guest can perform regular I/O in the meantime. Once the entire backing
>> file has been streamed, the image no longer requires a backing file and will
>> drop its reference
>
> Long CC list and Kevin wearing his upstream hat - this might be an
> unpleasant email. :-)
>
> So yesterday I had separate discussions with Stefan about image
> streaming and Marcelo, Avi and some other folks about live block copy.
> The conclusion was in both cases that, yes, both things are pretty
> similar and, yes, the current implementation don't reflect that but
> duplicate everything.
>
> To summarise what both things are about:
>
> * Image streaming is a normal image file plus copy-on-read plus a
> background task that copies data from the source image
> * Live block copy is a block-mirror of two normal image files plus a
> background task that copies data from the source image
Is this correct in practice?
Image streaming has the following semantics for A -> B where B is the
backing file of A.
1) All writes go to A.
2) If a read can be satisified by A, read from A, else read from B, copy
to A, then return
Block copy has the following semantics where A is the source and B is
the destination.
1) All reads and writes go to A
2) Copy data from B to A in the background
3) When B matches the content of A, switch over to B
Other than at a hand wave, they both do copies, I'm not sure I see the
overlap in implementations.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-16 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-14 18:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] QED image streaming Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] qemu-config: }, { -> }, { to please checkpatch.pl Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] block: add -drive copy-on-read=on|off Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] qed: replace is_write with flags field Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] qed: extract qed_start_allocating_write() Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] qed: make qed_aio_write_alloc() reusable Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] qed: add support for copy-on-read Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] qed: avoid deadlock on emulated synchronous I/O Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] qerror: add qerror_from_args() to create qerror objects Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] block: add bdrv_aio_copy_backing() Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] qmp: add QMP support for stream commands Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] block: add -drive stream=on|off Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] qed: intelligent streaming implementation Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] trace: trace bdrv_aio_readv/writev error paths Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-15 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] QED image streaming Philipp Hahn
2011-06-15 12:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-16 12:35 ` [Qemu-devel] Image streaming and live block copy (was: [PATCH 00/13] QED image streaming) Kevin Wolf
2011-06-16 12:49 ` [Qemu-devel] Image streaming and live block copy Avi Kivity
2011-06-16 13:08 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-16 13:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-16 14:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-16 15:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-17 12:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-18 9:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-18 9:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-19 16:02 ` Dor Laor
2011-06-24 9:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-26 12:50 ` Dor Laor
2011-06-27 7:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-27 9:13 ` Dor Laor
2011-06-17 13:54 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-17 8:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-17 8:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-17 9:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-17 10:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-17 12:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-17 13:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-17 13:50 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-16 13:10 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-06-16 13:50 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-16 14:38 ` [Qemu-devel] Image streaming and live block copy (was: [PATCH 00/13] QED image streaming) Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-16 14:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-17 8:21 ` [Qemu-devel] Image streaming and live block copy Kevin Wolf
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