From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeUaO-0005Hb-LD for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:04:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeUaM-0002l1-O4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:04:24 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:37726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeUaM-0002kX-3f for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:04:22 -0400 Received: from int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p66G4Jf3027877 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:04:20 -0400 Message-ID: <4E148776.4000805@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:04:06 +0200 From: Gerd Hoffmann MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Qemu-devel] migration: new sections and backward compatibility. List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , jes sorensen , Markus Armbruster , Juan Quintela Hi folks, We'll need to figure a sane way to handle migration to older versions with new sections, i.e. devices which used to not save state before do now. We already have one case in tree: usb. qemu 0.14 saves state for usb-hid devices and the usb-hub, whereas qemu 0.13 and older don't. You can't migrate a vm with a usb-tablet from 0.14 to 0.13 because of that even if you use -M pc-0.13. More cases are lurking. AHCI doesn't support migration today but probably will some day. Markus mentioned that scsi-disk will face that issue too. And that list probably isn't complete. Subsections don't help here as there is no toplevel section in the first place. Ideas anyone? Maybe allow test functions like we have for subsections for toplevel sections too, so we have a way to skip the section altogether on savevm? We probably also want a way to fail the migration in case the target machine doesn't support migration for $device, especially for $device == ahci to avoid data loss. For the usb-tablet it isn't that problematic, in the best case the guest just resets the device and goes on, in the worst case the mouse is dead. Comments? cheers, Gerd