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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: jes sorensen <jes.sorensen@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] migration: new sections and backward compatibility.
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:37:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E15D2CD.6040204@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m339iiwijw.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On 07/07/2011 04:23 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  writes:
>
>> On 07/06/2011 11:04 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> We'll need to figure a sane way to handle migration to older versions
>>> with new sections, i.e. devices which used to not save state before do now.
>>>
>>> We already have one case in tree: usb. qemu 0.14 saves state for usb-hid
>>> devices and the usb-hub, whereas qemu 0.13 and older don't. You can't
>>> migrate a vm with a usb-tablet from 0.14 to 0.13 because of that even if
>>> you use -M pc-0.13.
>>
>> Because if you did migrate, you would actively break the guest during
>> migration.  So why is this a problem?
>>
>> This comes up a lot.  We shouldn't enable migration if we know the
>> guest is going to break during migration.  That's a feature, not a
>> bug.
>
> Not so fast :)
>
> I agree that throwing away unrecognized migration data is unsafe, and
> should not be done.  Now let me present my little problem.
>
> I'm working on making migration preserve "tray status": open/closed,
> locked/unlocked.
>
> For ide-cd, I can stick a subsection "ide_drive/tray_state" into section
> "ide_drive".  Needed only if the tray is open or locked.  This gives
> users a chance to migrate to older versions, and is perfectly safe.
>
> scsi-cd doesn't have a section, yet.  What now?

Is that because 'scsi-cd' doesn't need a section or because it hasn't 
been implemented yet?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-07 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-06 16:04 [Qemu-devel] migration: new sections and backward compatibility Gerd Hoffmann
2011-07-06 17:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-07  7:19   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-07-07 15:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-12 14:50       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-07-07  9:23   ` Markus Armbruster
2011-07-07 11:02     ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-07 15:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-11 15:32         ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-11 15:31           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-07 14:40     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-07-07 15:37     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-07-07 16:44       ` Markus Armbruster
2011-07-06 17:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-06 20:01   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-06 23:32     ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-07  7:14       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-07-07  7:30         ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-08 13:02           ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-08 14:43             ` Peter Maydell
2011-07-08 15:12               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-07-07 15:33       ` Anthony Liguori

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