qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 00/58] Memory API
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:50:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E2599BC.9070407@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E25864A.10905@redhat.com>

On 07/19/2011 08:27 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/19/2011 04:09 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 07/17/2011 06:13 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> New in this version:
>>> MemoryRegionOps gained .old_mmio and .old_portio members, which allow
>>> reusing old-style callbacks with the new API. All uses were converted,
>>> except for eepro100.c, which uses the same MemoryRegionOps for both
>>> portio and mmio. Some intermediate patches do introduce dispatching
>>> callbacks, but they are removed later.
>>>
>>> Caveats:
>>> - some devices still grab a global memory region instead of inheriting
>>> it from their bus. Seen in the code as #include "exec-memory.h"
>>
>> Could you write up a quick document on how to use this new api for docs/?
>
> Sure. It's pretty simple.

Thanks.

>>
>> There's bits I don't like about the interface
>
> Which bits are these?

Nothing I haven't already commented on.  I think there's too much in the 
generic level.  I don't think coalesced I/O belongs here.  It's a 
concept that doesn't fit.  I think a side-band API would be nicer.

Endianness also seems out of place.  There are many layers that can 
affect final endianness.  It depends on how devices handle endianness 
and also whether the bus modifies endianness.

There are numerous devices that have a register that allows endianness 
to be toggled for the device.  That makes the actual endianness of the 
device dynamic which doesn't fit the memory region API very well IMHO.

>
>> but I think it's a huge improvement over what we have now so I'm
>> inclined to commit once it includes documentation.
>>
>
> My problem is that to start leveraging it, everything must flow through
> it. There are still several hundred call sites that are unconverted.

Really several hundred?  That surprises me.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> One option is to invert the relationship between ram_addr_t and
> MemoryRegion - implement the former in terms of the latter. That only
> works for uses which don't invoke IO_MEM_UNASSIGNED or address arithmetic.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-19 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-17 11:13 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 00/58] Memory API Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 01/58] Hierarchical memory region API Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 02/58] memory: implement dirty tracking Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 03/58] memory: merge adjacent segments of a single memory region Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 04/58] Internal interfaces for memory API Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 05/58] memory: abstract address space operations Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 06/58] memory: rename MemoryRegion::has_ram_addr to ::terminates Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 07/58] memory: late initialization of ram_addr Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 08/58] memory: I/O address space support Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 09/58] memory: add backward compatibility for old portio registration Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 10/58] memory: add backward compatibility for old mmio registration Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 11/58] memory: add ioeventfd support Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 17:29   ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 17:31     ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 12/58] exec.c: initialize memory map Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 13/58] ioport: register ranges by byte aligned addresses always Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 14/58] pc: grab system_memory Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 15/58] pc: convert pc_memory_init() to memory API Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 16/58] pc: move global memory map out of pc_init1() and into its callers Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 17/58] pci: pass address space to pci bus when created Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 18/58] pci: add MemoryRegion based BAR management API Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 19/58] sysbus: add MemoryRegion based memory " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 20/58] usb-ohci: convert to MemoryRegion Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 21/58] pci: add API to get a BAR's mapped address Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 22/58] vmsvga: don't remember pci BAR address in callback any more Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 23/58] vga: convert vga and its derivatives to the memory API Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 14:05   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 14:40     ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 14:45       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 14:48         ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 14:52           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 14:55             ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 24/58] cirrus: simplify mmio BAR access functions Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 25/58] cirrus: simplify bitblt " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 26/58] cirrus: simplify vga window mmio " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 27/58] vga: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 28/58] cirrus: simplify linear framebuffer " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 29/58] Integrate I/O memory regions into qemu Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 30/58] exec.c: fix initialization of system I/O memory region Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 31/58] pci: pass I/O address space to new PCI bus Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 32/58] pci: allow I/O BARs to be registered with pci_register_bar_region() Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 33/58] rtl8139: convert to memory API Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 34/58] ac97: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 35/58] e1000: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 36/58] eepro100: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 37/58] es1370: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 38/58] ide: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 39/58] ivshmem: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 40/58] virtio-pci: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 41/58] ahci: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 42/58] intel-hda: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 43/58] lsi53c895a: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 44/58] ppc: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 45/58] ne2000: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 46/58] pcnet: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 47/58] i6300esb: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 48/58] isa-mmio: concert " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 49/58] sun4u: convert " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 50/58] ehci: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 51/58] uhci: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 52/58] xen-platform: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 53/58] msix: " Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 54/58] pci: remove pci_register_bar_simple() Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 55/58] pci: convert pci rom to memory API Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 56/58] pci: remove pci_register_bar() Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 57/58] pci: fold BAR mapping function into its caller Avi Kivity
2011-07-17 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 58/58] pci: rename pci_register_bar_region() to pci_register_bar() Avi Kivity
2011-07-19 13:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 00/58] Memory API Anthony Liguori
2011-07-19 13:27   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-19 14:50     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-07-19 16:05       ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-19 16:10         ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-19 20:51           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-19 21:03             ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-20  2:53               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-20  6:10                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-20  8:12                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 12:12                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-20  8:10             ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 14:31               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-20 14:45                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-19 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-07-19 13:57   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-19 17:01   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-19 17:14     ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-19 17:30       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20  8:13         ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 11:20           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 11:59             ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 11:43           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 11:57             ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 13:57               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 14:32                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 14:37                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-07-20 14:42                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 14:54                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 15:58                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 16:02                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 16:13                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-20 16:19                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 16:10                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-07-20 16:52                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-20 17:06                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-07-20 16:53 ` Avi Kivity

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4E2599BC.9070407@codemonkey.ws \
    --to=anthony@codemonkey.ws \
    --cc=avi@redhat.com \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).