From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] live snapshot wiki updated
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:56:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E287648.4050708@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110719164755.GF12026@redhat.com>
On 07/19/2011 11:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 04:30:19PM +0200, Jes Sorensen wrote:
>> On 07/19/11 16:24, Eric Blake wrote:
>>> [adding the libvir-list]
>>> On 07/19/2011 08:09 AM, Jes Sorensen wrote:
>>>> Urgh, libvirt parsing image files is really unfortunate, it really
>>>> doesn't give me warm fuzzy feelings :( libvirt really should not know
>>>> about internals of image formats.
>>>
>>> But even if you add new features to qemu to avoid needing this in the
>>> future, it doesn't change the past - libvirt will always have to know
>>> how to parse image files understood by older qemu, and so as long as
>>> libvirt already knows how to do that parsing, we might as well take
>>> advantage of it.
>>
>> What has been done here in the past is plain wrong. Continuing to do it
>> isn't the right thing to do here.
>>
>>> Besides, I feel that having a well-documented file format, so that
>>> independent applications can both parse the same file with the same
>>> semantics by obeying the file format specification, is a good design goal.
>>
>> We all know that documentation is rarely uptodate, new features may not
>> get added and libvirt will never be able to keep up. The driver for a
>> file format belongs in QEMU and nowhere else.
>
> This would be possible if QEMU to provide a libblockformat.so library
> which allowed apps to extract metadata from file formats using a stable
> API.
How wrong would it be to call out to qemu-img to handle this instead?
Seems like a more stable interface (assuming the output of `qemu-img
info` is treated as an API of sorts, or perhaps some other output mode
is added to qemu-img that is considered stable).
>
> Daniel
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-21 18:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-15 14:58 [Qemu-devel] live snapshot wiki updated Jes Sorensen
2011-07-18 14:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-19 7:24 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-19 13:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-19 13:27 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-19 13:58 ` Eric Blake
2011-07-19 14:09 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-19 14:24 ` Eric Blake
2011-07-19 14:30 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-19 15:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-19 16:46 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20 7:30 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-07-20 8:23 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-20 9:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-07-20 10:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Stefan Hajnoczi
[not found] ` <4E27E610.7090502@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <4E282DE6.1020603@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <4E283554.4080903@redhat.com>
2011-07-21 14:51 ` Eric Blake
[not found] ` <4E27E5A2.2030208@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <4E28317D.9020502@redhat.com>
2011-07-21 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-21 19:42 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-22 5:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-22 15:49 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-22 7:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-22 9:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-22 16:05 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 9:50 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-20 10:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-19 16:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-20 8:25 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-20 10:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-20 13:25 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-20 13:46 ` Eric Blake
2011-07-20 17:27 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 17:47 ` Eric Blake
2011-07-20 19:51 ` Blue Swirl
[not found] ` <4E27DE5D.5050502@redhat.com>
2011-07-21 19:34 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 13:51 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-20 17:20 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 17:41 ` Eric Blake
2011-07-20 18:00 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 18:17 ` Eric Blake
2011-07-20 20:01 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 20:10 ` Eric Blake
[not found] ` <4E27E280.2060306@redhat.com>
2011-07-21 19:01 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-22 7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-22 8:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-22 16:09 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 13:50 ` Cleber Rosa
2011-07-20 14:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-20 18:34 ` Cleber Rosa
2011-07-19 16:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20 8:26 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-20 9:38 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-21 18:56 ` Michael Roth [this message]
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