From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49341) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkFXG-0000q7-Mk for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:12:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkFXF-0007VK-Fr for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:12:58 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:56077) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkFXF-0007VD-7g for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:12:57 -0400 Message-ID: <4E297805.5040607@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:15:49 +0200 From: Kevin Wolf MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4E259F6E.8000204@us.ibm.com> <4E2824D2.2050401@redhat.com> <4E2827A2.6010603@us.ibm.com> <4E282BE3.1050404@redhat.com> <4E283C90.8010806@us.ibm.com> <4E283FFE.6090201@redhat.com> <4E28497C.5010801@us.ibm.com> <4E284C74.2010708@redhat.com> <4E285492.1070006@codemonkey.ws> <4E292AC9.5080200@redhat.com> <4E296FBF.1090308@codemonkey.ws> In-Reply-To: <4E296FBF.1090308@codemonkey.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Object Model List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: qemu-devel , Anthony Liguori , Markus Armbruster , Avi Kivity Am 22.07.2011 14:40, schrieb Anthony Liguori: > On 07/22/2011 02:46 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote: >> Am 21.07.2011 18:32, schrieb Anthony Liguori: >>> Just as we're now realizing that we need to do dramatic things in the >>> block layer to make -blockdev work, I'm sure we're going to realize that >>> we want to do PCI hotplug of virtio-serial and therefore we need to do >>> dynamic creation/destruction of character devices. >> >> Just to have it said: -blockdev isn't the reason for doing something >> like this. The reason is that you want it. (Not saying anything about >> whether it is a good or a bad thing to want) >> >> What -blockdev really needs is an additional parameter to bdrv_open that >> carries the options. Could be as simple as a QDict, though that might >> not align well with your QAPI which wants everything to be C. But in any >> case, generalising the qdev properties mechanism to be usable in other >> contexts should be enough for anything. > > That's what QOM is. qdev generalized. Hm, yes, quite possible. Then maybe it's just its usage that I'm not happy with. You're turning the block layer upside down to change BlockDriverStates and BDRV*State to fit this API, which at the first sight looks pretty invasive. I was thinking of an object not for the whole BDS, but just for the same purpose as the QDict would have been used, that is something that can be passed to bdrv_open. On the other hand, it's really hard to quickly see in your git tree what changes QOM really means. Real patches to the existing code would be much more useful than an additional modified copy of the file. Kevin