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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@eu.citrix.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH v3] Generalize -machine command line option
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:23:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E2D603E.8050908@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E2D4CA1.1080504@siemens.com>

On 07/25/2011 05:59 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-07-25 12:45, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> That's an excuse, not a practical solution.  We have to be able to
>> work with any qemu.  eg. the qemu in current Fedora Rawhide which
>> supports only -machine accel=, or qemu in other distros which are also
>> branched from arbitrary git releases, or qemu that people compile
>> themselves.
>
> In principle, this is first of all a Rawhide problem. Upstream really
> can't babysit every distro doing crazy things with arbitrary devel
> snapshots. These patches were public, and the maintainers had a fair
> chance to realize that the interface was not yet set in stone.
>
>>
>> Parsing -help output and guesswork isn't scalable, and this is not
>> exactly the first time that people have complained about this.
>
> I agree. That's why we try hard to release stable interfaces and then
> maintain them.
>
>>
>> (Yes, libvirt and libguestfs do allow callers to mechanically query
>> their respective APIs for capabilities.)
>
> Maybe Anthony's (Liguori) rework of the QEMU config interfaces will
> provide a better reflections, haven't checked. But for now you need to
> stick with this model, specifically when you want to maintain all the
> distro forks.

Yes, it will, but it doesn't fix this particular.  Problem.  Until we do 
a release, we reserve the right to change the syntax of newly introduced 
command line options.

I don't think any level of introspection changes this.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Jan
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-25 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-23 10:38 [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH v3] Generalize -machine command line option Jan Kiszka
2011-07-23 10:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 2/2] Deprecate -M command line options Jan Kiszka
2011-07-23 15:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH v3] Generalize -machine command line option Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25  9:41 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-07-25 10:33   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 10:45     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-07-25 10:59       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 11:39         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-07-25 11:48           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 16:11             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Allow to leave type on default in -machine Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 16:21               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-07-25 16:33                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-29 14:37               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 12:23         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-07-25 11:48       ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH v3] Generalize -machine command line option Peter Maydell
2011-07-25 12:05         ` Peter Maydell
2011-07-25 12:18           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 12:22             ` Peter Maydell
2011-07-25 12:27               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 12:44           ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 12:47             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 12:49               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-07-25 12:53                 ` Alexander Graf

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