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From: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	quintela@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Fix subsection ambiguity in the migration format
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:48:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E353314.8070403@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E33340D.5050003@codemonkey.ws>

On 07/30/2011 01:28 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> No, not at all.  Just that converting everything to VMState isn't a
> prerequisite for building a more robust migration protocol.

The main thing is to priorities the problems we're facing with.
  - Live migration protocol:
    - VMState conversion is not complete
    - Live migration is not flexible enough (even with subsections)
    - Simplify destination cmdline for machine creation
  - Qdev
    - conversion is not complete
    - Machine + devices description are complex and have hidden glue
  - Qapi
    - Needs merging
  - QOB
    - Only the beginning

So overall there are many parallel projects, probably more than the 
above. The RightThink(tm) would be to pick the ones that we can converge 
on and not try to handle all in parallel. There are problems we can live 
with. Engineering wise it might not be a beauty but they can wait (for 
instance dark magic to create the machines). There are some that prevent 
adding new features or make the code hard to support w/o them.

Cheers,
Dor

ps: how hard is to finish the vmstate conversion? Can't we just assume 
not converted code is not functional and just remove all of it?

>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-31 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-30 15:46 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Fix subsection ambiguity in the migration format Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-30 15:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/4] add support for machine models to specify their " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-30 18:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-07-01  6:10     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-29 13:08   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-29 14:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-30 15:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/4] add pc-0.14 machine Paolo Bonzini
2011-08-05 19:26   ` Bruce Rogers
2011-08-05 19:41     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-30 15:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/4] savevm: define new unambiguous migration format Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-29 13:12   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-29 14:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-30 15:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] Partially revert "savevm: fix corruption in vmstate_subsection_load()." Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-25 21:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Fix subsection ambiguity in the migration format Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-25 23:23   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-26  9:42     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-26  9:48     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-26 12:51       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-26 13:00         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-26 12:07     ` Juan Quintela
2011-07-26 12:37       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-26 20:13         ` Juan Quintela
2011-07-26 21:46           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-26 22:22             ` Peter Maydell
2011-07-26 23:08               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-29 14:03         ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-29 14:28           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-29 15:18             ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-29 22:28               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-31 10:48                 ` Dor Laor [this message]
2011-07-31 11:37                   ` Peter Maydell
2011-07-31 11:45                     ` Dor Laor
2011-07-31 18:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-31 20:43                         ` Dor Laor
2011-07-31 20:55                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-31 23:10                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-01  0:15                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-01  7:54                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-01 13:53                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-04 14:59                                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-31 20:43                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-31 20:57                     ` Dor Laor
2011-07-31 21:03                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-31 21:25                         ` Dor Laor
2011-07-31 21:49                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-29 13:14   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-29 14:49     ` Paolo Bonzini

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