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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>, Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	libvirt-list@redhat.com, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Shribman, Aidan" <aidan.shribman@sap.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] XBZRLE delta for live migration of large memory apps
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:23:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E3FF145.5000705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E3FEF94.8090506@codemonkey.ws>

On 08/08/2011 05:15 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think workload aware migration compression is possible for a lot of
>>> different types of workloads. That makes me a bit wary of QEMU growing
>>> quite a lot of compression mechanisms.
>>>
>>> It makes me think that this logic may really belong at a higher level
>>> where more information is known about the workload. For instance, I
>>> can imagine XBZRLE living in something like libvirt.
>>
>> A better model would be plugin based.
>
>
> exec helpers are plugins.  They just live in a different address space 
> and a channel to exchange data (pipe).

libvirt isn't an exec helper.

>
> If we did .so plugins, which I'm really not opposed to, I'd want the 
> interface to be something like:
>
> typedef struct MigrationTransportClass
> {
>    ssize_t (*writev)(MigrationTransport *obj,
>                      struct iovec *iov,
>                      int iovcnt);
> } MigrationTransportClass;
>
> I think it's useful to use an interface like this because it makes it 
> easy to put the transport in a dedicated thread that didn't hold 
> qemu_mutex (which is sort of equivalent to using a fork'd helper but 
> is zero-copy at the expense of less isolation).

If we have a shared object helper, the thread should be maintained by 
qemu proper, not the plugin.

I wouldn't call it "migration transport", but instead a 
compression/decompression plugin.

I don't think it merits a plugin at all though.  There's limited scope 
for compression and it best sits in qemu proper.  If anything, it needs 
to be more integrated (for example turning itself off if it doesn't 
match enough).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-08 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-08  8:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] XBZRLE delta for live migration of large memory apps Shribman, Aidan
2011-08-08 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 13:41   ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-08 13:46     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 13:49     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 13:51   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:15     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 14:23       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-08-08 14:33         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 14:39           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 15:08             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 14:04   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-08-08 14:42     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:47   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:56     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-08 15:01       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 15:10     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 15:15       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 16:19         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 16:53           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 16:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-10 15:07               ` Shribman, Aidan
2011-08-10 15:12                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-10 15:58                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-10 16:08                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-10 16:23                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-10 16:40                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-10 19:27                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-11  8:03                             ` Shribman, Aidan
2011-08-11 13:00                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-11  8:17                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-11  9:16                               ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-08-11  9:20                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-11 13:03                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-08-11  9:24                             ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange

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