From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Supriya Kannery <supriyak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Safely reopening image files by stashing fds
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:16:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E3FFDE5.1020802@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QVtJ0Nd03ajcaqEa+gnyM9b9+jfLhB91jcLhP-OsBKaTg@mail.gmail.com>
Am 08.08.2011 16:49, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Am 05.08.2011 11:29, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> Am 05.08.2011 10:40, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>>>>> We've discussed safe methods for reopening image files (e.g. useful for
>>>>> changing the hostcache parameter). The problem is that closing the file first
>>>>> and then opening it again exposes us to the error case where the open fails.
>>>>> At that point we cannot get to the file anymore and our options are to
>>>>> terminate QEMU, pause the VM, or offline the block device.
>>>>>
>>>>> This window of vulnerability can be eliminated by keeping the file descriptor
>>>>> around and falling back to it should the open fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> The challenge for the file descriptor approach is that image formats, like
>>>>> VMDK, can span multiple files. Therefore the solution is not as simple as
>>>>> stashing a single file descriptor and reopening from it.
>>>>
>>>> So far I agree. The rest I believe is wrong because you can't assume
>>>> that every backend uses file descriptors. The qemu block layer is based
>>>> on BlockDriverStates, not fds. They are a concept that should be hidden
>>>> in raw-posix.
>>>>
>>>> I think something like this could do:
>>>>
>>>> struct BDRVReopenState {
>>>> BlockDriverState *bs;
>>>> /* can be extended by block drivers */
>>>> };
>>>>
>>>> .bdrv_reopen(BlockDriverState *bs, BDRVReopenState **reopen_state, int
>>>> flags);
>>>> .bdrv_reopen_commit(BDRVReopenState *reopen_state);
>>>> .bdrv_reopen_abort(BDRVReopenState *reopen_state);
>>>>
>>>> raw-posix would store the old file descriptor in its reopen_state. On
>>>> commit, it closes the old descriptors, on abort it reverts to the old
>>>> one and closes the newly opened one.
>>>>
>>>> Makes things a bit more complicated than the simple bdrv_reopen I had in
>>>> mind before, but it allows VMDK to get an all-or-nothing semantics.
>>>
>>> Can you show how bdrv_reopen() would use these new interfaces? I'm
>>> not 100% clear on the idea.
>>
>> Well, you wouldn't only call bdrv_reopen, but also either
>> bdrv_reopen_commit/abort (for the top-level caller we can have a wrapper
>> function that does both, but that's syntactic sugar).
>>
>> For example we would have:
>>
>> int vmdk_reopen()
>
> .bdrv_reopen() is a confusing name for this operation because it does
> not reopen anything. bdrv_prepare_reopen() might be clearer.
Makes sense.
>
>> {
>> *((VMDKReopenState**) rs) = malloc();
>>
>> foreach (extent in s->extents) {
>> ret = bdrv_reopen(extent->file, &extent->reopen_state)
>> if (ret < 0)
>> goto fail;
>> }
>> return 0;
>>
>> fail:
>> foreach (extent in rs->already_reopened) {
>> bdrv_reopen_abort(extent->reopen_state);
>> }
>> return ret;
>> }
>
>> void vmdk_reopen_commit()
>> {
>> foreach (extent in s->extents) {
>> bdrv_reopen_commit(extent->reopen_state);
>> }
>> free(rs);
>> }
>>
>> void vmdk_reopen_abort()
>> {
>> foreach (extent in s->extents) {
>> bdrv_reopen_abort(extent->reopen_state);
>> }
>> free(rs);
>> }
>
> Does the caller invoke bdrv_close(bs) after bdrv_prepare_reopen(bs,
> &rs)?
No. Closing the old backend would be part of bdrv_reopen_commit.
Do you have a use case where it would be helpful if the caller invoked
bdrv_close?
> There is more state than just the file descriptors and I'm not
> sure that that gets preserved unless we add code to stash away stuff.
> I'm basically hoping this interface does not require touching every
> BlockDriver.
If we only want to change flags like O_DIRECT or O_SYNC, I think format
drivers (except VMDK) can use a standard implementation that just
reopens bs->file.
If we wanted bdrv_reopen to ensure that all caches are dropped etc. then
I think we need a specific implementation in all drivers unless
bdrv->bdrv_open/bdrv_close is good enough to emulate it.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-08 15:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-05 8:40 [Qemu-devel] Safely reopening image files by stashing fds Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-05 9:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-08-05 9:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-05 9:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-08-05 13:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-05 13:12 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-08-05 14:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-05 15:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-05 15:43 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-05 15:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 7:02 ` Supriya Kannery
2011-08-08 8:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-09 9:22 ` supriya kannery
2011-08-09 9:51 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-09 9:32 ` supriya kannery
2011-08-16 19:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] " Supriya Kannery
2011-08-16 19:18 ` Supriya Kannery
2011-08-17 14:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-10-10 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2011-10-11 5:21 ` Supriya Kannery
2011-08-05 14:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-05 9:07 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-05 9:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-05 9:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-08 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-08 15:16 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2011-08-09 10:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-09 10:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-09 10:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-09 10:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-09 11:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-09 12:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-09 12:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-09 19:39 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-10 7:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-10 17:20 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-11 7:37 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-11 16:21 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-05 20:16 ` Blue Swirl
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