From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Nadav Har'El <nyh@math.technion.ac.il>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, satoshi.itoh@aist.go.jp,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
t.hirofuchi@aist.go.jp, Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH][RFC] post copy chardevice (was Re: [RFC] postcopy livemigration proposal)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:40:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E4A7353.9030708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110816014226.GJ13791@valinux.co.jp>
On 08/15/2011 06:42 PM, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:29:37PM -0700, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > On 08/12/2011 04:07 AM, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
> >> This is a character device to hook page access.
> >> The page fault in the area is reported to another user process by
> >> this chardriver. Then, the process fills the page contents and
> >> resolves the page fault.
> >
> > Have you considered CUSE (character device in userspace, fs/fuse/cuse.c)?
>
> By looking at dev.c and cuse.c, it doesn't seem to support mmap and
> fault handler.
If performance is sufficient, this would be the preferred path. Enhance
an existing API which can be useful to others, rather than add a new one.
> >> +
> >> +struct kvm_vmem_make_pages_present {
> >> + __u32 nr;
> >> + struct kvm_vmem_page_range __user *ranges;
> >> +};
> >
> > This is madvise(MADV_WILLNEED), is it not?
>
> Another process, not qemu process, issues it,
> and it make the pages are present in qemu process address space.
That process just issues these calls in a loop until all memory is
present, yes? it seems those few lines could be easily added to qemu.
>
>
> > Can you explain these in some more detail?
>
>
> KVM_CRATE_VMEM_DEV: create vmem-dev device from kvm device
> for qemu
> KVM_CREATE_VMEM: create vmem device from vmem-dev device.
> (note:qemu creates more than one memory region.)
>
>
> KVM_VMEM_WAIT_READY: wait for KVM_VMEM_READY
> for qemu
> KVM_VMEM_READY: unblock KVM_VMEM_WAIT_READY
> for daemon uses
> These are for qemu and daemon to synchronise to enter postcopy stage.
This are eliminated if we fold the daemon into qemu. Also, could just a
semaphore or other synchronization mechanism.
>
> KVM_VMEM_GET_PAGE_REQUEST: retrieve page fault of qemu process
Equivalent to the fault callback of CUSE (if we add it)?
> KVM_VMEM_MARK_PAGE_CACHED: mark the specified pages pulled from the source
> for daemon
Equivalent to returning from that callback with a new page?
> KVM_VMEM_MAKE_PAGES_PRESENT: make the specified pages present in qemu
> virtual address space
> for daemon uses
> KVM_VMEM_MAKE_VMA_ANONYMOUS: make the specified vma in the qemu process
> anonymous
> I'm not sure whether this can be implemented
> or not.
>
> I think The following the work flow on the destination helps.
>
> qemu on the destination
> |
> V
> open(/dev/kvm)
> |
> V
> KVM_CREATE_VMEM_DEV
> |
> V
> Here we have two file descriptors to
> vmem device and shmem file
> |
> |
> | daemon on the destination
> V
> fork()---------------------------------------,
> | |
> V |
> close(socket) V
> close(shmem) mmap(shmem file)
> | |
> V V
> mmap(vmem device) for guest RAM close(shmem file)
> | |
> V |
> KVM_VMEM_READY_WAIT<---------------------KVM_VMEM_READY
> | |
> V |
> close(vmem device) Here the daemon takes over
> | the owner of the socket
> entering post copy stage to the source
> start guest execution |
> | |
> V V
> access guest RAM KVM_VMEM_GET_PAGE_REQUEST
> | |
> V V
> page fault ------------------------------>page offset is returned
> block |
> V
> pull page from the source
> write the page contents
> to the shmem.
> |
> V
> unblock<-----------------------------KVM_VMEM_MARK_PAGE_CACHED
> the fault handler returns the page
> page fault is resolved
> |
> | pages can be pulled
> | backgroundly
> | |
> | V
> | KVM_VMEM_MARK_PAGE_CACHED
> | |
> V V
> The specified pages<----------------------KVM_VMEM_MAKE_PAGES_PRESENT
> are made present |
> so future page fault is avoided. |
> | |
> V V
>
> all the pages are pulled from the source
>
> | |
> V V
> the vma becomes anonymous<----------------KVM_VMEM_MAKE_VMA_ANONYMOUS
> (note: I'm not sure if this can be implemented or not)
> | |
> V V
> migration completes exit()
>
Yes, thanks, this was very helpful.
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-16 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-08 3:24 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] postcopy livemigration proposal Isaku Yamahata
2011-08-08 9:20 ` Dor Laor
2011-08-08 9:40 ` Yaniv Kaul
2011-08-08 21:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 10:59 ` Nadav Har'El
2011-08-08 11:47 ` Dor Laor
2011-08-08 16:52 ` Cleber Rosa
2011-08-08 15:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 12:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 15:11 ` Dor Laor
2011-08-08 15:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 15:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 19:47 ` Dor Laor
2011-08-09 2:07 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-08-08 9:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-08 9:43 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-08-08 12:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-09 2:33 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-08-10 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-11 2:19 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-08-11 16:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-12 11:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH][RFC] post copy chardevice (was Re: [RFC] postcopy livemigration proposal) Isaku Yamahata
2011-08-12 11:09 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-08-12 21:26 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-15 19:29 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-16 1:42 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-08-16 13:40 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
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