From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] main: force enabling of I/O thread
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:08:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5262CE.40703@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E5260E9.9030603@redhat.com>
On 2011-08-22 16:00, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 08/22/2011 03:50 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> Enabling the I/O thread by default seems like an important part of declaring
>>> 1.0. Besides allowing true SMP support with KVM, the I/O thread means that the
>>> TCG VCPU doesn't have to multiplex itself with the I/O dispatch routines which
>>> currently requires a (racey) signal based alarm system.
>>
>> Even with iothread it's still signal based (and still racy) -- the only way
>> to get a thread currently executing TCG code to stop doing so is to send it
>> a signal.
>
> It's signal-based, but I'm not sure it's racy when single-threaded. This:
>
> /* ... tb_add_jump ... */
> barrier();
> if (likely(!env->exit_request)) {
>
> in cpu_exec, vs. this in the signal handler:
>
> void cpu_exit(CPUState *env)
> {
> env->exit_request = 1;
> cpu_unlink_tb(env);
> }
>
> together will make sure that only a single basic block is executed after
> an exit request.
>
> The problems with user-level emulation arise from multiple threads
> concurrently execute the tb_add_jump or cpu_unlink_tb operations. My
> knowledge of user-level emulation is approximately zero, but I think it
> should be possible to make the race outcome predictable. That's because
> (1) cpu_unlink_tb is idempotent; (2) you don't really need to do
> anything in cpu_unlink_tb if the other thread is running tb_add_jump,
> because setting env->exit_request will avoid entering the CPU.
Current multi-threaded user mode emulation is just (too) optimistically
designed. But once VCPUs start to use their own TBs and/or TB chains
(maybe it can be beneficial to decouple the translation buffer from the
linking), this problem should go away.
Jan
--
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-22 14:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-22 13:24 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] main: force enabling of I/O thread Anthony Liguori
2011-08-22 13:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-22 13:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 18:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 20:21 ` Andreas Färber
2011-08-29 20:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 21:23 ` Andreas Färber
2011-08-29 21:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 22:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 18:45 ` Andreas Färber
2011-08-30 19:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-01 18:31 ` Andreas Färber
2011-09-02 13:59 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2011-09-02 14:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-02 14:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-02 15:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-22 13:50 ` Peter Maydell
2011-08-22 14:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-08-22 14:08 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-08-22 14:18 ` Peter Maydell
2011-08-22 14:09 ` Anthony Liguori
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