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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] posix-aio-compat: fix latency issues
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:40:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E539FA9.3010507@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QW0rphazTVd2cyho=D0MVsVCcHu3wzwXJsJqGnM_4owzg@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/23/2011 06:01 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Jan Kiszka<jan.kiszka@siemens.com>  wrote:
>> On 2011-08-14 06:04, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> In certain circumstances, posix-aio-compat can incur a lot of latency:
>>>   - threads are created by vcpu threads, so if vcpu affinity is set,
>>>     aio threads inherit vcpu affinity.  This can cause many aio threads
>>>     to compete for one cpu.
>>>   - we can create up to max_threads (64) aio threads in one go; since a
>>>     pthread_create can take around 30μs, we have up to 2ms of cpu time
>>>     under a global lock.
>>>
>>> Fix by:
>>>   - moving thread creation to the main thread, so we inherit the main
>>>     thread's affinity instead of the vcpu thread's affinity.
>>>   - if a thread is currently being created, and we need to create yet
>>>     another thread, let thread being born create the new thread, reducing
>>>     the amount of time we spend under the main thread.
>>>   - drop the local lock while creating a thread (we may still hold the
>>>     global mutex, though)
>>>
>>> Note this doesn't eliminate latency completely; scheduler artifacts or
>>> lack of host cpu resources can still cause it.  We may want pre-allocated
>>> threads when this cannot be tolerated.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Uli Obergfell of Red Hat for his excellent analysis and suggestions.
>>
>> At this chance: What is the state of getting rid of the remaining delta
>> between upstream's version and qemu-kvm?
>
> That would be nice.  qemu-kvm.git uses a signalfd to handle I/O
> completion whereas qemu.git uses a signal, writes to a pipe from the
> signal handler, and uses qemu_notify_event() to break the vcpu.  Once
> the force iothread patch is merged we should be able to move to
> qemu-kvm.git's signalfd approach.

No need to use a signal at all actually.  The use of a signal is 
historic and was required to work around the TCG race that I referred to 
in another thread.

You should be able to just use an eventfd or pipe.

Better yet, we should look at using GThreadPool to replace posix-aio-compat.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Stefan
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-23 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-14  4:04 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] posix-aio-compat: fix latency issues Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 17:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-22 17:29 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-23 11:01   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-23 12:40     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-08-23 13:02       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-23 14:02         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-23 14:10           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-28  8:09             ` Avi Kivity

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