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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues <lmr@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: Clean up PIC-to-APIC IRQ path
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:32:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E637E06.9020206@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E636B56.9070808@web.de>

On 09/04/2011 07:13 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-09-03 21:54, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 08/31/2011 05:53 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> On 2011-08-31 10:25, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>> On 30 August 2011 20:28, Jan Kiszka<jan.kiszka@web.de>   wrote:
>>>>> Yes, that's the current state. Once we have bidirectional IRQ links in
>>>>> place (pushing downward, querying upward - required to skip IRQ routers
>>>>> for fast, lockless deliveries), that should change again.
>>>>
>>>> Can you elaborate a bit more on this? I don't think anybody has
>>>> proposed links with their own internal state before in the qdev/qom
>>>> discussions...
>>>
>>> That basic idea is to allow
>>>
>>> a) a discovery of the currently active IRQ path from source to sink
>>>      (that would be possible via QOM just using forward links)
>>>
>>> b) skip updating the states of IRQ routers in the common case, just
>>>      signaling directly the sink from the source (to allow in-kernel IRQ
>>>      delivery or to skip taking some device locks). Whenever some router
>>>      is queried for its current IRQ line state, it would have to ask the
>>>      preceding IRQ source for its state. So we need a backward link.
>>
>> Can you provide some concrete use-cases of this?  I'm not convinced this
>> is really all that important and it seems like tremendous amounts of
>> ugliness would be needed to support it.
>
> INTx support for device assignment, vhost, or any other future in-kernel
> IRQ sources.

I prefer to not think of IRQs as special things.  They're just single 
bits of information that flow through the device model.  Having a higher 
level representation that understands something like paths seems wrong 
to me.

I'd prefer to treat things like device assignment as a hack.  You just 
need code that can walk the device tree to figure out the path (which is 
not generic code, it's very machine specific).  Then you tell the kernel 
the resolution of the path and are otherwise completely oblivious in 
userspace.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-04 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-27 14:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: Clean up PIC-to-APIC IRQ path Jan Kiszka
2011-08-28  7:10 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-28  9:08   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 19:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 21:06   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 21:13     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 21:18       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 19:19       ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-30 19:28         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 19:43           ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31  8:25           ` Peter Maydell
2011-08-31 10:53             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-31 17:41               ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 18:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-31 19:44                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 10:33                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 12:25                     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-03 19:54               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 12:13                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:32                   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-09-04 13:36                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:41                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:49                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:57                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 14:37                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:20                               ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 15:31                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:44                                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-05 10:44                             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-04 14:12                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 14:43                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:03                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:19                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:34                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:27                             ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 12:17               ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 12:37                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 12:43                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:38                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:42                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:55                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:35                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-31  8:28         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-31 16:59           ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 18:04             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-08-31 18:28               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-01  5:58             ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-03 20:07               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-03 21:10                 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 21:41                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04  9:27                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 19:53             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-03 21:01               ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 14:49                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-05  8:38               ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05  8:51                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05  9:02                   ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-05  9:14                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05  9:22                   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05  9:28                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05 10:47                       ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05 19:36                 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-06  7:46                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-01  9:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] pc: Fix and clean " Jan Kiszka
2011-09-03  8:58   ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 11:17     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-03 11:37       ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 18:14         ` Jan Kiszka

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