From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues <lmr@redhat.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: Clean up PIC-to-APIC IRQ path
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:36:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E637EEA.1030502@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E637E06.9020206@codemonkey.ws>
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On 2011-09-04 15:32, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 09/04/2011 07:13 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-09-03 21:54, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> On 08/31/2011 05:53 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On 2011-08-31 10:25, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>>> On 30 August 2011 20:28, Jan Kiszka<jan.kiszka@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, that's the current state. Once we have bidirectional IRQ
>>>>>> links in
>>>>>> place (pushing downward, querying upward - required to skip IRQ
>>>>>> routers
>>>>>> for fast, lockless deliveries), that should change again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you elaborate a bit more on this? I don't think anybody has
>>>>> proposed links with their own internal state before in the qdev/qom
>>>>> discussions...
>>>>
>>>> That basic idea is to allow
>>>>
>>>> a) a discovery of the currently active IRQ path from source to sink
>>>> (that would be possible via QOM just using forward links)
>>>>
>>>> b) skip updating the states of IRQ routers in the common case, just
>>>> signaling directly the sink from the source (to allow in-kernel
>>>> IRQ
>>>> delivery or to skip taking some device locks). Whenever some
>>>> router
>>>> is queried for its current IRQ line state, it would have to ask
>>>> the
>>>> preceding IRQ source for its state. So we need a backward link.
>>>
>>> Can you provide some concrete use-cases of this? I'm not convinced this
>>> is really all that important and it seems like tremendous amounts of
>>> ugliness would be needed to support it.
>>
>> INTx support for device assignment, vhost, or any other future in-kernel
>> IRQ sources.
>
> I prefer to not think of IRQs as special things. They're just single
> bits of information that flow through the device model. Having a higher
> level representation that understands something like paths seems wrong
> to me.
>
> I'd prefer to treat things like device assignment as a hack. You just
> need code that can walk the device tree to figure out the path (which is
> not generic code, it's very machine specific). Then you tell the kernel
> the resolution of the path and are otherwise completely oblivious in
> userspace.
See it as you like, but we need the support, not only for device
assigment. And I do not see any gain it hacking this instead of
designing it.
Jan
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-27 14:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: Clean up PIC-to-APIC IRQ path Jan Kiszka
2011-08-28 7:10 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-28 9:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 19:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 21:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 21:13 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 21:18 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 19:19 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-30 19:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 19:43 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 8:25 ` Peter Maydell
2011-08-31 10:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-31 17:41 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 18:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-31 19:44 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 10:33 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 12:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-03 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 12:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:36 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-09-04 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:20 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:44 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-05 10:44 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-04 14:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 14:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:34 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:27 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 12:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 12:37 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 12:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-31 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-31 16:59 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 18:04 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-08-31 18:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-01 5:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-03 20:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-03 21:10 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 21:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 9:27 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 19:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-03 21:01 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 14:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-05 8:38 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05 8:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05 9:02 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-05 9:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05 9:22 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05 9:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05 10:47 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05 19:36 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-06 7:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-01 9:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] pc: Fix and clean " Jan Kiszka
2011-09-03 8:58 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 11:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-03 11:37 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 18:14 ` Jan Kiszka
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