From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues <lmr@redhat.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: Clean up PIC-to-APIC IRQ path
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:42:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E638044.5020709@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E637F53.6010102@codemonkey.ws>
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On 2011-09-04 15:38, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 09/04/2011 07:37 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-09-04 14:17, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 08/31/2011 01:53 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On 2011-08-31 10:25, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>>> On 30 August 2011 20:28, Jan Kiszka<jan.kiszka@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, that's the current state. Once we have bidirectional IRQ
>>>> links in
>>>>>> place (pushing downward, querying upward - required to skip IRQ
>>>> routers
>>>>>> for fast, lockless deliveries), that should change again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you elaborate a bit more on this? I don't think anybody has
>>>>> proposed links with their own internal state before in the qdev/qom
>>>>> discussions...
>>>>
>>>> That basic idea is to allow
>>>>
>>>> a) a discovery of the currently active IRQ path from source to sink
>>>> (that would be possible via QOM just using forward links)
>>>>
>>>> b) skip updating the states of IRQ routers in the common case, just
>>>> signaling directly the sink from the source (to allow in-kernel
>>>> IRQ
>>>> delivery or to skip taking some device locks). Whenever some
>>>> router
>>>> is queried for its current IRQ line state, it would have to ask
>>>> the
>>>> preceding IRQ source for its state. So we need a backward link.
>>>>
>>>> We haven't thought about how this could be implemented in details yet
>>>> though. Among other things, it heavily depends on the final QOM design.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like a similar path to the memory API. A declarative description
>>> of the interrupt hierarchy allows routes to be precalculated and
>>> flattened.
>>>
>>> (here it's strictly an optimization; with the memory API it's a
>>> requirement since kvm requires a flattened representation, and tcg is
>>> greatly simplified by it).
>>
>> With current kvm device assignment it's mandatory as it only support
>> kernel/kernel IRQ delivery. Only vfio's eventfds will make it optional
>> (but still highly desirable).
>
> It's not mandatory. All you need to be able to do is calculate the APIC
> IRQ for a given PCI device interrupt.
...and establish notifies for changes along this line. And allow to
update intermediate states on access.
> That doesn't mean we need to be
> able to do arbitrary interrupt resolution in generic code.
We will likely have to solve the same problem on none x86 as well.
>
> There is potentially tremendous complexity here because you'll have to
> bake all interrupt rerouting logic into a declarative API and/or call
> into generic code to update routing tables. Given the fact that we
> can't even generically refer to a device reliably today, this is would
> be a daunting task.
>
> We're making this all more complicated than it needs to be.
We can't discuss the problem away, sorry.
Jan
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-27 14:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: Clean up PIC-to-APIC IRQ path Jan Kiszka
2011-08-28 7:10 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-28 9:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 19:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 21:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 21:13 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 21:18 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 19:19 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-30 19:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 19:43 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 8:25 ` Peter Maydell
2011-08-31 10:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-31 17:41 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 18:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-31 19:44 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 10:33 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 12:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-03 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 12:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:20 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:44 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-05 10:44 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-04 14:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 14:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:34 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:27 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 12:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 12:37 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 12:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:42 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-09-04 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-31 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-31 16:59 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 18:04 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-08-31 18:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-01 5:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-03 20:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-03 21:10 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 21:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 9:27 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 19:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-03 21:01 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 14:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-05 8:38 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05 8:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05 9:02 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-05 9:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05 9:22 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05 9:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05 10:47 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05 19:36 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-06 7:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-01 9:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] pc: Fix and clean " Jan Kiszka
2011-09-03 8:58 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 11:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-03 11:37 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 18:14 ` Jan Kiszka
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