From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/14] qdev: assign unique names to all devices (part 1)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:21:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E7393BA.9090209@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E737DC9.5010208@siemens.com>
On 09/16/2011 11:48 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-09-16 18:00, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> This series introduces an infrastructure to remove anonymous devices from qdev.
>> Anonymous devices are one of the big gaps between qdev and QOM so removing is
>> a prerequisite to incrementally merging QOM.
>>
>> Besides the infrastructure, I also converted almost all of the possible PC
>> devices to have unique names. Please not that naming is not a property of
>> devices but rather of the thing that creates the devices (usually machines).
>>
>> The names are ugly but this is because of the alternating device/bus hierarchy
>> in qdev. For now, the names use '::' as deliminators but I think Jan has
>> convinced me that down the road, we should use '/' as a deliminator such that
>> the resulting names are actually valid paths (using a canonical path format).
>
> I still don't see why we need to store strings as device references.
> Everyone that lacks a reference (QEMU-external users) can pass in a path
> - which can be a device name in the simple case.
Thinking more about this. I think a critical requirement is to be able to ask a
device how to reference itself. IOW, there needs to be a device_get_name(dev)
that returns something that can be meaningfully used to later reference the device.
With your no name stored in a device proposal, you would have something like this:
const char *device_get_name(Device *dev)
{
if (dev->parent) { // created through composition, ask parent
return device_get_child_name(dev->parent, dev);
} else { // user created, return user supplied name
return dev->name;
}
}
device_get_child_name() ends up becoming complicated unless you maintain a list
of children and their name mappings. That means Device needs to store a hash
table even though those pointers are not the canonical references since the
composition devices are embedded in the parent Device.
I think this leads to a lot of complexity without much real life gain. I think
having the parent generate and set the child's name during creation is a
significant simplification.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
That path is resolved
> to an object reference before proceeding with the requested service. If
> an object should be serialized in whatever way and we need a stable
> name, a central service could return this by walking up the composition
> tree until a user-assigned name is found.
>
> So there is really no need to bother device model developers with the
> topics "How do I define a unique name?" or "Do I need an index or will
> there be never more than one foo device?".
>
> Jan
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-16 18:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-16 16:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/14] qdev: assign unique names to all devices (part 1) Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/14] apic: rename apic.id -> apic.index Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/14] qdev: enforce that no devices overload the id property Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/14] qdev: push id into qdev_create calls Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/14] qdev: take ownership of id pointer Anthony Liguori
2011-09-19 7:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-19 16:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-20 6:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-20 13:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-20 13:21 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-20 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-20 14:11 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/14] qdev: remove opts pointer tracking Anthony Liguori
2011-09-19 7:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/14] qdev: add ability to do QOM-style derived naming Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 18:39 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/14] sysbus: add an id argument to sysbus_create_simple() Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/14] sysbus: make create_varargs take an id Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/14] fw_cfg: add name to global fw_cfg device Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/14] isa: add name parameter to device creation Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/14] pci: obtain devfn before initializing the device Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/14] pci: give pci devices a default name Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/14] ide: give IDE drives a default name in qdev Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/14] pc: assign names to machine created devices Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/14] qdev: assign unique names to all devices (part 1) Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:48 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-16 16:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 17:03 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-16 18:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 17:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-16 18:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-19 7:26 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-19 14:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-19 14:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-20 8:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-19 7:41 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-16 18:21 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-09-19 7:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-17 18:41 ` Blue Swirl
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