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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Avoiding nographic_timer exits
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:18:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E85895E.1020101@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E8583F4.6040102@siemens.com>

On 2011-09-30 10:55, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-09-30 10:46, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-09-30 10:18, David Gibson wrote:
>>> With PowerKVM, exits from KVM to qemu are even more expensive than on
>>> x86.  One significant source of these we're finding (since we usually
>>> work in -nographic mode) is the nographic_timer.
>>>
>>> At present, we're using a hack to disable it, but that's obviously not
>>> a long term solution.  From examination, it looks like the only
>>> purpose of this timer is to flush coalesced mmios.  So it seems like
>>> the timer should only be activated when a coalesced mmio region
>>> actually exists, but I'm not entirely sure how to go about that.
>>>
>>> Thinking longer term, it seems very odd that a userspace periodic
>>> timer handles this at all.  Surely it would make more sense to use a
>>> kernel timer within KVM, which can be activated only when there are
>>> actually pending coalesced MMIOs in the buffer.
>>
>> Coalesced MMIO should only be flushed when a device depending on it gets
>> accessed - either by a VCPU or by the iothread (to update the graphic
>> output e.g.). We are working on such a concept (to reduce latency for
>> VCPUs with real-time constraints).
> 
> The MMIO flush in nographic_update dates back to 62a2744ca0. Mmh, I do
> understand the need for flushing with active graphic, but I do not see
> the need without such output.

We "need" it in nographic_update for VNC as that one registers its own
refresh timer.

However, the qemu_flush_coalesced_mmio_buffer calls in the update timers
are both misplaced. They belong into the update handlers of those
display device models that use coalesced MMIO. Will write a patch.

Jan

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      reply	other threads:[~2011-09-30  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-30  8:18 [Qemu-devel] Avoiding nographic_timer exits David Gibson
2011-09-30  8:46 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-30  8:55   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-30  9:18     ` Jan Kiszka [this message]

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