[Qemu-devel] Correction: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )

[Qemu-devel] Correction: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )

[Ottavio]

Correction:
To subscribe to the mailing list just send a blank email to:
qemu-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com (not
qemu-users-owner@yahoogroups.com as previoulsy stated).
You will be given the option to join the mailing list only.

Sorry for the confusion.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ottavio <pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com>
Date: 30 September 2011 12:11
Subject: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu
users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-users@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Stefan Weil <weil@mail.berlios.de>, stefanha@gmail.com, jernej@ena.si


On 5 September 2011 23:13, Stefan Weil <weil@mail.berlios.de> wrote:
> Do you already know when you expect qemu-users to be available?

Due to lack of interest from the maintainers of this project, I have
decided to setup an unofficial mailing list for qemu users.

Description: This unofficial mailing list is a place for users of
QEMU, a processor emulator that relies on dynamic binary translation
to achieve a reasonable speed while being easy to port on new host CPU
architectures.

Also welcome are kvm and qemu-kvm users. If your question is specific
to kvm, please prepend a relevant tag [kvm] or [qemu-kvm] to the
subject.

It is also a good idea to specify the host and guest architecture and
the qemu version in the body of your message.

This yahoo group can be used as either a web forum or a pure mailing list.

To subscribe to the mailing list just send a blank email to:
qemu-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
You will be given the option to join the mailing list only.

To use it as web forum go to:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/qemu-users/
and click "Join this group".


-- 
Ottavio

qemu-users · The mailing list for qemu users:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/qemu-users/

Re: [Qemu-devel] Correction: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )

[Anthony Liguori]

On 09/30/2011 08:44 AM, Ottavio wrote:
> Correction:
> To subscribe to the mailing list just send a blank email to:
> qemu-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com (not
> qemu-users-owner@yahoogroups.com as previoulsy stated).
> You will be given the option to join the mailing list only.
>
> Sorry for the confusion.

You know, it's possible to actually talk to people instead of going off and 
declaring that there's "lack of interest from the maintainers".

qemu-users predates my involvement with QEMU.  Since it was never set up 
properly, it's in a fubar state right now on Savannah.  About the only thing I 
can do is delete it and start over but deleting requires human intervention on 
the part of Savannah admins.

Instead of waiting for qemu-users to go away in order to recreate it, I decided 
to just create a qemu-discuss list.

That list is now open.  See

http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ottavio<pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com>
> Date: 30 September 2011 12:11
> Subject: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu
> users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )
> To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-users@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: Stefan Weil<weil@mail.berlios.de>, stefanha@gmail.com, jernej@ena.si
>
>
> On 5 September 2011 23:13, Stefan Weil<weil@mail.berlios.de>  wrote:
>> Do you already know when you expect qemu-users to be available?
>
> Due to lack of interest from the maintainers of this project, I have
> decided to setup an unofficial mailing list for qemu users.
>
> Description: This unofficial mailing list is a place for users of
> QEMU, a processor emulator that relies on dynamic binary translation
> to achieve a reasonable speed while being easy to port on new host CPU
> architectures.
>
> Also welcome are kvm and qemu-kvm users. If your question is specific
> to kvm, please prepend a relevant tag [kvm] or [qemu-kvm] to the
> subject.
>
> It is also a good idea to specify the host and guest architecture and
> the qemu version in the body of your message.
>
> This yahoo group can be used as either a web forum or a pure mailing list.
>
> To subscribe to the mailing list just send a blank email to:
> qemu-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> You will be given the option to join the mailing list only.
>
> To use it as web forum go to:
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/qemu-users/
> and click "Join this group".
>
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] Correction: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu users

[Anthony Liguori]

On 09/30/2011 08:53 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 09/30/2011 08:44 AM, Ottavio wrote:
>> Correction:
>> To subscribe to the mailing list just send a blank email to:
>> qemu-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com (not
>> qemu-users-owner@yahoogroups.com as previoulsy stated).
>> You will be given the option to join the mailing list only.
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> You know, it's possible to actually talk to people instead of going off and
> declaring that there's "lack of interest from the maintainers".
>
> qemu-users predates my involvement with QEMU. Since it was never set up
> properly, it's in a fubar state right now on Savannah. About the only thing I
> can do is delete it and start over but deleting requires human intervention on
> the part of Savannah admins.
>
> Instead of waiting for qemu-users to go away in order to recreate it, I decided
> to just create a qemu-discuss list.
>
> That list is now open. See
>
> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel

Err...

http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-discuss

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Ottavio<pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com>
>> Date: 30 September 2011 12:11
>> Subject: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu
>> users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )
>> To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-users@yahoogroups.com
>> Cc: Stefan Weil<weil@mail.berlios.de>, stefanha@gmail.com, jernej@ena.si
>>
>>
>> On 5 September 2011 23:13, Stefan Weil<weil@mail.berlios.de> wrote:
>>> Do you already know when you expect qemu-users to be available?
>>
>> Due to lack of interest from the maintainers of this project, I have
>> decided to setup an unofficial mailing list for qemu users.
>>
>> Description: This unofficial mailing list is a place for users of
>> QEMU, a processor emulator that relies on dynamic binary translation
>> to achieve a reasonable speed while being easy to port on new host CPU
>> architectures.
>>
>> Also welcome are kvm and qemu-kvm users. If your question is specific
>> to kvm, please prepend a relevant tag [kvm] or [qemu-kvm] to the
>> subject.
>>
>> It is also a good idea to specify the host and guest architecture and
>> the qemu version in the body of your message.
>>
>> This yahoo group can be used as either a web forum or a pure mailing list.
>>
>> To subscribe to the mailing list just send a blank email to:
>> qemu-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>> You will be given the option to join the mailing list only.
>>
>> To use it as web forum go to:
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/qemu-users/
>> and click "Join this group".
>>
>>
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] Correction: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )

[陳韋任]

> Instead of waiting for qemu-users to go away in order to recreate it, I decided 
> to just create a qemu-discuss list.
> 
> That list is now open.  See
> 
> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^
                                           Is it right?

  Should be http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-discuss
, I think. :-)

Regards,
chenwj

-- 
Wei-Ren Chen (陳韋任)
Computer Systems Lab, Institute of Information Science,
Academia Sinica, Taiwan (R.O.C.)
Tel:886-2-2788-3799 #1667

Re: [Qemu-devel] Correction: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )

[Ottavio]

On 30 September 2011 14:53, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
> You know, it's possible to actually talk to people instead of going off and
> declaring that there's "lack of interest from the maintainers".

Both me and Stefan Weil had written to you and the list asking when
qemu-users was going to be available and there was no update since the
5th of Semptember. Considering there is no forum I though it was a
good idea to create one and now that it's there it's there to stay.

-- 
Ottavio

qemu-users · The mailing list for qemu users:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/qemu-users/

Re: [Qemu-devel] Correction: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )

[陳韋任]

Hi, Ottavio

  Would you like to put http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/qemu-users/
on http://wiki.qemu.org/MailingLists ?

Regards,
chenwj

-- 
Wei-Ren Chen (陳韋任)
Computer Systems Lab, Institute of Information Science,
Academia Sinica, Taiwan (R.O.C.)
Tel:886-2-2788-3799 #1667

Re: [Qemu-devel] Correction: Announcing qemu-users - the unofficial mailing list for qemu users (was: Now, what's left to non-developers? ... )

[Anthony Liguori]

On 09/30/2011 09:04 AM, Ottavio wrote:
> On 30 September 2011 14:53, Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  wrote:
>> You know, it's possible to actually talk to people instead of going off and
>> declaring that there's "lack of interest from the maintainers".
>
> Both me and Stefan Weil had written to you and the list asking when
> qemu-users was going to be available and there was no update since the
> 5th of Semptember. Considering there is no forum I though it was a
> good idea to create one and now that it's there it's there to stay.
>

Just because there wasn't an update doesn't mean progress wasn't being made.

Honestly, I have no problem with anyone setting up whatever forums/mailing lists 
they want.  The more the merrier.

But declaring there's lack of interest from the maintainers is simply not true. 
  If you would have tried a little harder to reach out, you would have known 
that.  qemu-devel gets thousands of mails a month.  It's extremely easy for 
messages to get missed.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori