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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] runstate: do not discard runstate changes when paused
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:43:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E8C7B1C.2020808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111005113707.5312f98b@doriath>

On 10/05/2011 04:37 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> Now, we have three options to fix this but I don't know which one to choose:
>
>   1. We could just add the transition RSTATE_PAUSED ->  RSTATE_POST_MIGRATE
>      as valid. Not sure this is a good thing to do though, as it seems a silly
>      workaround for the fact that the transition to RSTATE_PRE_MIGRATE has
>      never occurred
>
>   2. This patch makes vm_stop() do the state transition even if the VM
>      is already stopped. Seems good enough, except that I fear two things.
>      First, today we know that vm_stop() is a no-op if the VM is already
>      stopped, so there's a semantic change that could turn out to be trap.
>      Second, I also fear people using vm_stop() as a way to change the
>      VM status, just like runstate_set() (which can also become an horrible
>      trap)
>
>   3. Avi suggested we should keep a reference count, so that states are
>      not discarded:
>
> 	http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2011-08/msg00595.html
>
>      That solution seemed to be the perfect one, except for one important
>      detail: how should we implement vm_start() (and thus 'cont')?
>
>      In order to maintain how we behave with the external world, the only
>      option is that vm_start() will set the stop count to 0. Ie, doesn't
>      matter if we have stopped the VM 500 times at some point, a vm_start()
>      call will discard all stored states.
>
>      Not sure if that's what you expected, but the first time I read Avi's
>      idea I had the impression that it would be a good idea that vm_start()
>      decremented the ref count only once, ie. vm_stop() and vm_start() calls
>      have to match.
>

vm_start() should be symmetric with vm_stop().  That is, if a piece of 
code wants to execute with vcpus stopped, it should just run inside a 
stop/start pair.

The only confusion can come from the user, if he sees multiple stop 
events and expects that just one cont will continue the vm.  For the 
machine monitor, we should just document that the you have to issue one 
cont for every stop event you see (plus any stops you issue).  It's not 
unnatural - the code that handles a stop_due_to_enospace can work to fix 
the error and issue a cont, disregarding any other stops in progress 
(due to a user pressing the stop button, or migration, or cpu hotplug, 
or whatever).  For the human monitor, it's not so intuitive, but the 
situation is so rare we can just rely on the user to issue cont again.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-05 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-04 12:04 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] runstate: do not discard runstate changes when paused Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-04 13:49 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-04 14:09   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-04 14:30     ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 14:37 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 15:43   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-10-05 15:44     ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 16:31     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-05 16:37       ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 16:49         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-05 17:12           ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 18:02             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-06 14:27               ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-06 15:08                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-05 17:02         ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 17:23           ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 17:39             ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 18:02               ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 18:49                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 18:50                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-06 11:14                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-10 18:49 ` Luiz Capitulino

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