From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] runstate: do not discard runstate changes when paused
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:37:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E8C87DF.5080201@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E8C8656.3040706@web.de>
On 10/05/2011 06:31 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>
> >
> > vm_start() should be symmetric with vm_stop(). That is, if a piece of
> > code wants to execute with vcpus stopped, it should just run inside a
> > stop/start pair.
> >
> > The only confusion can come from the user, if he sees multiple stop
> > events and expects that just one cont will continue the vm. For the
> > machine monitor, we should just document that the you have to issue one
> > cont for every stop event you see (plus any stops you issue). It's not
> > unnatural - the code that handles a stop_due_to_enospace can work to fix
> > the error and issue a cont, disregarding any other stops in progress
> > (due to a user pressing the stop button, or migration, or cpu hotplug,
> > or whatever). For the human monitor, it's not so intuitive, but the
> > situation is so rare we can just rely on the user to issue cont again.
>
> Making this kind of user-visible change would be a bad idea.
The current situation is a bad idea.
Consider a user-initiated or qemu-initiated stop; the user starts to
deal with it, types 'cont', and as the Enter key is being depressed
another qemu-initiated stop comes along. The 'cont' restarts the guest
even though the second event was not dealt with.
> We are talking about multiple stop states here, but only a single
> function (vm_stop) to enter them - maybe that's not optimal. But the
> point is that we were missing one stop-to-stop transition. And that
> needs to be fixed, either inside vm_stop or when it is called.
Those stops are orthogonal. There is no relationship between a
migration stop, a user stop, an ENOSPC stop, a hotplug stop, and a
debugger stop. There is no reason to start inventing stop-to-stop
transitions between them. A 'cont' intended for one should not undo
another.
There are two ways to do this, one is to store a set of stop reasons and
let both 'stop' and 'cont' specify the reason, the other, which is
simpler but less safe, is to use a reference counting approach.
>
> If you want to lock the VM into paused state, add a new symmetric API
> that does precisely this. That API would send the VM into RSTATE_LOCKED
> if it is not yet stopped on lock or is still locked on resume. That
> would avoid redefining stop states that have no use for lock-counting
> semantics.
>
Which stop states would these be? When would you want one cont to undo
two stops?
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-05 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-04 12:04 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] runstate: do not discard runstate changes when paused Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-04 13:49 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-04 14:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-04 14:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 14:37 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 15:44 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 16:31 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-05 16:37 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-10-05 16:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-05 17:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 18:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-06 14:27 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-06 15:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-05 17:02 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 17:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 17:39 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 18:02 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-05 18:49 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-05 18:50 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-10-06 11:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-10 18:49 ` Luiz Capitulino
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