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From: Corey Bryant <coreyb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Richa Marwaha <rmarwah@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Add support for bridge
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:24:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E8DF274.9000502@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E8DF141.4060007@codemonkey.ws>



On 10/06/2011 02:19 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 10/06/2011 01:15 PM, Corey Bryant wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/06/2011 01:49 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> On 10/06/2011 10:38 AM, Richa Marwaha wrote:
>>>> The most common use of -net tap is to connect a tap device to a
>>>> bridge. This
>>>> requires the use of a script and running qemu as root in order to
>>>> allocate a
>>>> tap device to pass to the script.
>>>>
>>>> This model is great for portability and flexibility but it's incredibly
>>>> difficult to eliminate the need to run qemu as root. The only really
>>>> viable
>>>> mechanism is to use tunctl to create a tap device, attach it to a
>>>> bridge as
>>>> root, and then hand that tap device to qemu. The problem with this
>>>> mechanism
>>>> is that it requires administrator intervention whenever a user wants
>>>> to create
>>>> a guest.
>>>>
>>>> By essentially writing a helper that implements the most common
>>>> qemu-ifup
>>>> script that can be safely given cap_net_admin, we can dramatically
>>>> simplify
>>>> things for non-privileged users. We still support existing -net tap
>>>> options
>>>> as a mechanism for advanced users and backwards compatibility.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, this is very Linux centric but there's really no reason
>>>> why it
>>>> couldn't be extended for other Unixes.
>>>>
>>>> The default bridge that we attach to is qemubr0. The thinking is that
>>>> a distro
>>>> could preconfigure such an interface to allow out-of-the-box bridged
>>>> networking.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, if a user wants to use a different bridge, they can say:
>>>>
>>>> qemu-hda linux.img -net
>>>> tap,br=br0,helper=/usr/local/libexec/qemu-bridge-helper
>>>> -net nic,model=virtio
>>>
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be better to make the syntax:
>>>
>>> -net bridge[,br=BRIDGE][,helper=HELPER]
>>>
>>> And default BRIDGE to br0 and HELPER to
>>> ${prefix}/libexec/qemu-bridge-helper ?
>>>
>>> That gives distros a proper way to configure a default bridge making
>>> -net bridge Just Work for most people.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony Liguori
>>>
>>
>> Yes I think it would be much more usable under -net bridge. I really
>> wanted this
>> to work under -net tap (where fd and init are) but now we know there's
>> no good
>> way to default to the helper without spelling out the path.
>
> I'm certainly in favor of leaving helper as part of -net tap, but I
> think there should be a -net bridge in addition.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori

Ok, yes.  The best of both worlds.

-- 
Regards,
Corey

      reply	other threads:[~2011-10-06 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-06 15:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] -net tap: rootless bridge support for qemu Richa Marwaha
2011-10-06 15:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Add basic version of bridge helper Richa Marwaha
2011-10-06 16:41   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-06 18:04     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-10-06 18:38       ` Corey Bryant
2011-10-07  9:04         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-07 14:40           ` Corey Bryant
2011-10-07 14:45             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-07 14:51               ` Corey Bryant
2011-10-07 14:52               ` Corey Bryant
2011-10-06 17:44   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-10-06 18:10     ` Corey Bryant
2011-10-06 15:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add access control support to qemu-bridge-helper Richa Marwaha
2011-10-06 15:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Add cap reduction support to enable use as SUID Richa Marwaha
2011-10-06 16:34   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-06 17:42     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-10-06 18:05       ` Corey Bryant
2011-10-06 18:08       ` Corey Bryant
2011-10-06 15:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Add support for bridge Richa Marwaha
2011-10-06 17:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-10-06 18:15     ` Corey Bryant
2011-10-06 18:19       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-10-06 18:24         ` Corey Bryant [this message]

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