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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Question] dump memory when host pci device is	used by guest
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:48:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E92A35E.2070207@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E92A315.9040200@cn.fujitsu.com>

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On 2011-10-10 09:47, Wen Congyang wrote:
> At 10/10/2011 03:22 PM, Jan Kiszka Write:
>> On 2011-10-10 09:17, Wen Congyang wrote:
>>> At 10/10/2011 03:01 PM, Jan Kiszka Write:
>>>> On 2011-10-10 08:59, Wen Congyang wrote:
>>>>> At 10/10/2011 02:52 PM, Jan Kiszka Write:
>>>>>> On 2011-10-10 04:21, Wen Congyang wrote:
>>>>>>> At 10/09/2011 06:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones Write:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 10:49:57AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>>>> As explained in the other replies: It is way more future-proof to use an
>>>>>>>>> interface for this which was designed for it (remote gdb) instead of
>>>>>>>>> artificially relaxing reasonable constraints of the migration mechanism
>>>>>>>>> plus having to follow that format with the post-processing tool.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any interface that isn't "get this information off my production
>>>>>>>> server *now*" so that I can get the server restarted, and send it to
>>>>>>>> an expert to analyse -- is a poor interface, whether it was designed
>>>>>>>> like that or not.  Perhaps we don't have the right interface at all,
>>>>>>>> but remote gdb is not it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about the following idea?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Introduce a new monitor command named dump, and this command accepts a filename.
>>>>>>> We can use almost all migration's code. We use this command to dump guest's
>>>>>>> memory, so there is no need to check whether the guest has a unmigratable device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not want to reject this proposal categorically, but I would like to
>>>>>> see the gdb path fail /wrt essential requirements first. So far I don't
>>>>>> see it would.
>>>>>
>>>>> ‘gdb path fail /wrt essential requirements’
>>>>>
>>>>> what does it mean?
>>>>
>>>> That you explain why reading reading memory and processor states via the
>>>> remote gdb interface and dumping it into a proper core file cannot be
>>>> made working for you.
>>>
>>> First, I think crash can not analyze such core file. But it is not very important.
>>>
>>> What is remote gdb interface?
>>
>> man qemu -> gdb.
>>
>>> Do you mean that: the supporter uses gdb from another machine
>>
>> Or locally. There are various transports possible.
>>
>>> to connect to customer's machine and get the data? If so, this way can not be
>>> used when the customer needs to dump the guest's memory automatically when watchdog timeouts.
>>
>> It is just another channel that can conceptually be used like the
>> monitor, by a management app like libvirt, directly or indirectly via a
>> scripted gdb frontend, or also by a human who wants to save some ongoing
>> gdb session for later analysis. This dual use make such an approach the
>> preferred one.
> 
> Is the following is right?
> 
> 1. execute the monitor command 'gdbserver'
> 2. run gdb and then 'target remote :1234'

Yep.

> 
> But, unfortunately, the monitor command gdbserver does not exit when we use json to connect to monitor.

You mean via human-monitor-command (gdbserver is not a qmp command)?
Would be a bug.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-10  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-07  9:46 [Qemu-devel] [Question] dump memory when host pci device is used by guest Wen Congyang
2011-10-07 10:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-07 12:25   ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-07 12:56     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-07 14:05       ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-07 15:06         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  9:00       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-08 15:16   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-09  8:49     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-09 10:23       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-09 10:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  2:21         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  6:52           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  6:59             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  7:01               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  7:17                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  7:22                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  7:47                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  7:48                       ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-10-10  8:28                         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  7:08             ` Alexander Graf
2011-10-10  7:10               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  9:02             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-10  9:34               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-11  2:27                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  7:15                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  7:52                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  7:58                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  8:19                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:25                         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  8:26                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:31                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  8:31                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:34                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-18  8:36                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:39                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 10:41                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-18 10:42                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-18 12:47                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:08                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-18 13:13                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 10:47                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:30                                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-18 13:34                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  9:43                                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18 10:28                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:51                                         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18 13:55                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 14:17                                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18 14:21                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 15:04                                                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18 15:27                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-19  1:23                                                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-19  2:04                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-19 11:40                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-20  1:22                                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-20  9:41                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-20 10:03                                         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-21  7:11                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-21  7:50                                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-21 13:02                                               ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-21 13:16                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-21 14:12                                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-24  2:25                                                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-24 14:25                                                   ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-24 15:01                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-24 15:25                                                       ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-24 15:30                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-24 15:58                                                           ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-25  1:37                                                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-25  7:37                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-25  8:06                                                           ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-25  8:23                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-25  8:35                                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25  8:52                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-25  8:56                                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25  9:19                                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-25 13:18                                                                 ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-25 13:22                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-18  7:58                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-18  8:17                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:25                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:25                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-18  8:30                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  9:08           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-10  9:10             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-10  9:34               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-10 10:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  9:34               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10 10:19                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-11  2:20                   ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-11  6:58                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-11  7:13                       ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10 10:21                 ` Alon Levy
2011-10-10 10:48                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-10 11:04                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-10 11:09                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-10 12:00                         ` [Qemu-devel] windows crash dump header. was: " Alon Levy
2011-10-10 12:38                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-10 13:47                             ` Alon Levy

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