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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 28/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Drop tracking of used vectors
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:26:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E9DC4BD.6040208@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111018170640.GB6362@redhat.com>

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On 2011-10-18 19:06, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 05:55:54PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-10-18 17:22, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> What KVM has to do is just mapping an arbitrary MSI message
>>> (theoretically 64+32 bits, in practice it's much of course much less) to
>>
>> ( There are 24 distinguishing bits in an MSI message on x86, but that's
>> only a current interpretation of one specific arch. )
> 
> Confused. vector mask is 8 bits. the rest is destination id etc.

Right, but those additional bits like the destination make different
messages. We have to encode those 24 bits into a unique GSI number and
restore them (by table lookup) on APIC injection inside the kernel. If
we only had to encode 256 different vectors, we would be done already.

> 
>>> a single GSI and vice versa. As there are less GSIs than possible MSI
>>> messages, we could run out of them when creating routes, statically or
>>> lazily.
>>>
>>> What would probably help us long-term out of your concerns regarding
>>> lazy routing is to bypass that redundant GSI translation for dynamic
>>> messages, i.e. those that are not associated with an irqfd number or an
>>> assigned device irq. Something like a KVM_DELIVER_MSI IOCTL that accepts
>>> address and data directly.
>>
>> This would be a trivial extension in fact. Given its beneficial impact
>> on our GSI limitation issue, I think I will hack up something like that.
>>
>> And maybe this makes a transparent cache more reasonable. Then only old
>> host kernels would force us to do searches for already cached messages.
>>
>> Jan
> 
> Hmm, I'm not all that sure. Existing design really allows
> caching the route in various smart ways. We currently do
> this for irqfd but this can be extended to ioctls.
> If we just let the guest inject arbitrary messages,
> that becomes much more complex.

irqfd and kvm device assignment do not allow us to inject arbitrary
messages at arbitrary points. The new API offers kvm_msi_irqfd_set and
kvm_device_msix_set_vector (etc.) for those scenarios to set static
routes from an MSI message to a GSI number (+they configure the related
backends).

> 
> Another concern is mask bit emulation. We currently
> handle mask bit in userspace but patches
> to do them in kernel for assigned devices where seen
> and IMO we might want to do that for virtio as well.
> 
> For that to work the mask bit needs to be tied to
> a specific gsi or specific device, which does not
> work if we just inject arbitrary writes.

Yes, but I do not see those valuable plans being negatively affected.

Jan


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-18 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-17  9:27 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 00/45] qemu-kvm: MSI layer rework for in-kernel irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 01/45] msi: Guard msi/msix_write_config with msi_present Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 02/45] msi: Guard msi_reset " Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 03/45] msi: Use msi/msix_present more consistently Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 04/45] msi: Invoke msi/msix_reset from PCI core Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 05/45] msi: Invoke msi/msix_write_config " Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 06/45] msix: Prevent bogus mask updates on MMIO accesses Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 11:23     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 12:07         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:11             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 19:43               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 07/45] msi: Generalize msix_supported to msi_supported Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 08/45] Introduce MSIMessage structure Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 11:51     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 12:09         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 13:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:14             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 09/45] msi: Factor out msi_message_from_vector Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 10/45] msix: Factor out msix_message_from_vector Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 11/45] msi: Factor out delivery hook Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 10:56   ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:15     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:22       ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:29         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:14           ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 18:59             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 13:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 13:41         ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 13:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:18             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 13:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:15     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:23         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:41             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:44             ` malc
2011-10-18 12:49               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 12/45] msi: Introduce MSIRoutingCache Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:06   ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:19     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:25       ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:31         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:17           ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 15:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:26             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 15:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:23     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 13/45] hpet: Use msi_deliver Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 14/45] qemu-kvm: Drop useless kvm_clear_gsi_routes Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 15/45] qemu-kvm: Drop unused kvm_del_irq_route Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 16/45] qemu-kvm: Use MSIMessage and MSIRoutingCache Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 17/45] qemu-kvm: Track MSIRoutingCache in KVM routing table Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:13   ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:25     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:15       ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 18/45] qemu-kvm: Hook into MSI delivery at APIC level Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 19/45] qemu-kvm: Factor out kvm_msi_irqfd_set Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 20/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Only invoke msix_handle_mask_update on changes Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 21/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Don't fire notifier spuriously on set/unset Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 22/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Fire mask notifier on global mask changes Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:00     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:40       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:45         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:57           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 23/45] qemu-kvm: Rework MSI-X mask notifier to generic MSI config notifiers Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 11:45     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:39       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:08         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 13:49             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 24/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Don't handle mask updated while disabled Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 25/45] qemu-kvm: Update MSI cache on kvm_msi_irqfd_set Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 26/45] qemu-kvm: Use g_realloc for irq_routes extension Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 27/45] qemu-kvm: Lazily update MSI caches Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 28/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Drop tracking of used vectors Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 15:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:28     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 11:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:08         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:33           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:38             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 13:00                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:37                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 13:46                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 14:01                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 14:08                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 15:08                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 15:22                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 15:55                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 17:06                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 18:24                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 18:40                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 19:37                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 21:40                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 22:13                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-19  0:56                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-19  6:41                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-19  9:03                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-19 11:17                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-20 22:02                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-21  7:09                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-21  7:54                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-21  9:27                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-21 10:57                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 18:26                                   ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-10-18 15:56                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 15:58                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 29/45] pci-assign: Drop kvm_assigned_irq::host_irq initialization Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 30/45] pci-assign: Rename assign_irq to assign_intx Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 31/45] qemu-kvm: Refactor kvm_deassign_irq to kvm_device_irq_deassign Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 32/45] pci-assign: Factor out deassign_irq Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 33/45] qemu-kvm: Factor out kvm_device_intx_assign Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 34/45] qemu-kvm: Factor out kvm_device_msi_assign Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 35/45] pci-assign: Polish assigned_dev_update_msix_mmio Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 36/45] qemu-kvm: Factor out kvm_device_msix_* services Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 37/45] qemu-kvm: Clean up irqrouting API Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 38/45] msi: Implement config notifiers for legacy MSI Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 39/45] pci-assign: Use generic MSI support Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 40/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Drop check for preexisting cap from msix_add_config Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 41/45] msix: Drop unused msix_bar_size Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 42/45] msix: Introduce msix_init_simple Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 11:27     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 14:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:21         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 10:52           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 11:02             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 43/45] msix: Allow to customize capability on init Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 44/45] pci-assign: Use generic MSI-X support Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 45/45] pci-assign: Fix coding style issues Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 00/45] qemu-kvm: MSI layer rework for in-kernel irqchip support Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 15:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:35   ` Jan Kiszka

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