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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Fabien Chouteau <chouteau@adacore.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] GSoC mentor summit QEMU users session
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:35:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EB19B95.60405@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EB1998E.1000502@suse.de>

On 11/02/2011 02:27 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> Peter Maydell wrote:
>> On 2 November 2011 18:47, Alexander Graf<agraf@suse.de>  wrote:
>>
>>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>
>>>> We should also be able to establish an EXPORT_SYMBOL concept, ie. only
>>>> export those functions that are supposed to be part of a component API.
>>>> Will be some work initially, but should be off long term, both to QEMU
>>>> in maintaining stable APIs and to external components in using the
>>>> proper ones.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> Yes. IOW, let's go down the same road as Linux. It works well for them,
>>> why not for us?
>>>
>>
>> I'd rather see us have a decent usable API for implementing devices
>> *inside* the QEMU source tree before we start thinking about having
>> one for devices outside the tree...
>>
> Right. That's exactly what Linux does. On Linux, you have EXPORT_SYMBOL
> and EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL. The former is considered reasonably stable. The
> latter can change even in minor revisions.

No... neither are stable.

The difference is historical and has to do with licensing, not stability.

> So the obvious thing to do would be to export everything, but mark it
> unstable and then mark things stable as we go in and actually consider
> them stable. And only consider them stable for a limited time.

For the record, I'm opposed to ever having a stable plugin API.

We aren't a closed source product.  If people want to have to keep up with our 
changing internal interfaces, they can get their code merged upstream.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Alex
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-02 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-29 13:52 [Qemu-devel] GSoC mentor summit QEMU users session Alexander Graf
2011-10-31 13:12 ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-01  0:08   ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-01  1:35     ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-01  4:29       ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-01 10:05   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-01 23:11     ` Chris Johns
2011-11-02 17:44   ` Fabien Chouteau
2011-11-02 18:17     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-02 18:29       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-02 18:34         ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-02 18:46           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-02 18:47             ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-02 19:07               ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-02 19:27                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-02 19:35                   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-11-02 20:24                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-11-02 20:42                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-03  7:34                         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-03  7:46                     ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-03  8:36                       ` Andreas Färber
2011-11-04 15:47                         ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-02 18:50             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-02 18:52               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-02 18:51           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-03  7:38             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-03  7:44           ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-01 14:28 ` Andreas Färber
2011-11-01 14:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-02 17:39 ` Fabien Chouteau
2011-11-03  7:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-03  9:35     ` Fabien Chouteau
2011-11-04  8:36       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-04  9:53         ` Fabien Chouteau
2011-11-04 12:04           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-04 14:36             ` Fabien Chouteau
2011-11-04 18:45         ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-11-07 10:16           ` Fabien Chouteau
2011-11-07 11:50             ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-11-07 13:51               ` Fabien Chouteau
2011-11-07 14:17                 ` Lluís Vilanova

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