From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52218) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMyV-00040l-Ob for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:02:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMyR-0004JP-M5 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:02:47 -0500 Received: from mail-gy0-f173.google.com ([209.85.160.173]:47460) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMyR-0004JE-D9 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:02:43 -0500 Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so4263404gyb.4 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:02:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <4EB7BACA.70006@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:02:34 +0100 From: Paolo Bonzini MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Sasha Levin Cc: Pekka Enberg , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel Developers , Blue Swirl , Gerd Hoffmann , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , Avi Kivity On 11/07/2011 11:30 AM, Sasha Levin wrote: > > In Linux we don't have that culture. No tool (except perf) lives in the > > kernel repo. I fail to see why kvm-tool is that much different from > > udev, util-linux, iproute, filesystem tools, that it should be included. > > tools/power was merged in just 2 versions ago, do you think that > merging that was a mistake? Indeed I do not see any advantage, since all the interfaces they use are stable anyway (sysfs, msr.ko). If they had gone in x86info, for example, my distro (F16, not exactly conservative) would have likely picked those tools up already, but it didn't. Paolo