From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] block: add eject request callback
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:49:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EB7E1D8.5090007@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EB7DEDE.4090809@redhat.com>
Am 07.11.2011 14:36, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
> On 11/07/2011 02:21 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> The commit message should explain why we need this callback. The cover
>> letter says "support for eject requests is required by udev 173."
>> Please elaborate on that.
>
> Well, first and foremost eject requests are in the spec. :) The fact
> that recent guests need it is more a justification for pulling this in 1.0.
>
>> You implement it for IDE in PATCH 7/8 and SCSI in PATCH 8/8. You don't
>> implement it for floppy, despite the comment. That's okay; floppy has
>> no use for it. It's the comment that needs fixing. Devices that
>> implement is_medium_locked() must implement this one as well.
>
> Right.
>
>> 1. eject without -f behaves like the physical tray button. It has
>> immediate effect, unless the tray is locked closed. Then, the drive
>> just notifies the OS of the button push, so the OS can react to it. The
>> latter isn't implemented in QEMU.
>>
>> 2. eject with -f behaves like whatever physical way there is to pry the
>> tray open, locked or not. CD-ROM drives commonly have a little button
>> hidden in some hope you can reach with a bent paperclip.
>>
>> Could you explain your mental model?
>
> 1. eject without -f is as you mentioned.
>
> 2. eject with -f should really never be needed, but it does whatever is
> needed to be able to follow up with a "change" command. It turns out it
> is really "unlock" and "ask the guest to eject" combined, but that's the
> implementation, not the model.
Does this give different results than just asking the guest to eject
without forcefully unlocking? I would expect that a guest that responds
to the eject request would also unlock the drive. In which case I think
eject without -f should be enough?
> The difference from the paperclip model is that it gives a chance for
> the OS to clean up and eject safely. It wouldn't be hard to convince me
> otherwise though, especially if it can help getting the patch in 1.0.
> The "eject -f"+"change" can be replaced by "eject", possibly followed by
> "eject -f" after a timeout, and then followed again by "change".
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-07 13:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-25 10:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] My remaining block/SCSI patches for 1.0 Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] scsi: do not call transfer_data after canceling a request Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] scsi-disk: bump SCSIRequest reference count until aio completion runs Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] scsi-generic: " Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] scsi: push request restart to SCSIDevice Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] scsi-disk: add scsi-block for device passthrough Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-28 17:04 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] block: add eject request callback Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-28 17:21 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-10-29 7:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 13:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-07 13:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 13:49 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2011-11-07 13:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 14:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-07 15:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-07 16:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 16:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8 v2] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-08 13:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] atapi: implement eject requests Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] scsi-disk: " Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] ping Re: [PATCH 0/5] My remaining block/SCSI patches for 1.0 Paolo Bonzini
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