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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Benoît Canet" <benoit.canet@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] integratorcp: convert integratorcm to VMState
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:09:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EBAC1F2.9040502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EBABBD1.3000206@codemonkey.ws>

On 11/09/2011 07:43 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Every MemoryRegion field in qemu today is either immutable or slaved to
>> another register.  We could have a system to annotate every field, but
>> it's pointless.
>
>
> If I'm writing a device and doing save/restore and I happen to use a
> MemoryRegion, how do I determine that every field is either immutable
> or slaved?

In general 'return true' should work.  I have a hard time imagining a
device where this doesn't hold.

If all memory API functions are called with parameters that are
functions of the state and only the state, you're good.

>> The memory/mutators branch simplifies it by eliminating pseudo state
>> like flash_mapped.
>
>
> They just moved the derived state into the MemoryRegion, no?
>

They do not.  We had this state in three places.  memory/mutators folds
->flash_mapped and the MemoryRegion equivalent; they both still mirror
the real device register.

If we had an Observable interface for Registers, then we could make any
write to the Register automatically update the MemoryRegion; as it is,
we have to call device_update_mapping() after every write.

>> Yes, ISR fields often have it (like virtio).
>
> Yes, but virtio-pci was a very special case to avoid taking an extra
> exit.
>
> Do you know of any other than virtio-pci?  All the ones I can think of
> (RTC, Serial, etc.) are cleared with a write.

Can't think of any offhand, but see
http://verificationguild.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=5724. 
Anyway, if something turns out not to be useful, we don't have to keep
it in the core.

>> This style of code really wants lambdas.  Without them, we have 4-5
>> lines of boilerplate for each callback.  Even then, it's worthwhile IMO
>> (and many callbacks can be avoided, both read and write, or merged into
>> a device_update_mapping or device_update_irq read-all-state style
>> functions).
>
>
> Yeah, I looked at this but wasn't happy with the results.  In
> practice, many devices end up implementing non-trivial logic when
> register values change.
>
> What I was really interested in was coming up with a way to get really
> high quality tracing of device register accesses.

A Register can still dispatch to a common dispatch function.

Another thing I'm thinking of is wrapping addr/size/value in a
Transaction object, to keep the signatures trim.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-09 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-25 11:09 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] arm: VMState conversion Benoît Canet
2011-10-25 11:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] pl181: add vmstate Benoît Canet
2011-10-25 11:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] bitbang_i2c: convert to VMState Benoît Canet
2011-10-25 11:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] realview: convert realview i2c " Benoît Canet
2011-10-25 11:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] integratorcp: convert integratorcm " Benoît Canet
2011-10-26 17:24   ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-08  2:07     ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-08  6:33       ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-08 10:08         ` Benoît Canet
2011-11-08 12:16           ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-08 12:15         ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-08 12:21           ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-08 12:30             ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-08 12:38               ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-08 12:47                 ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-08 13:50                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-08 14:38                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-08 15:04                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-08 15:15                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-08 15:32                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-08 17:19                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 14:40                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 15:05                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 15:20                                 ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-09 15:21                                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 15:49                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 15:56                                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 16:07                                     ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-09 17:43                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 18:09                                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-10-25 11:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] integratorcp: convert icp_pic " Benoît Canet

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