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From: Perry Myers <pmyers@redhat.com>
To: Subhendu Ghosh <sghosh@redhat.com>
Cc: Gal Hammer <ghammer@redhat.com>,
	arch@ovirt.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] converging  around a single guest agent
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:45:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EC2C166.8030403@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EC2AAA0.5010205@redhat.com>

On 11/15/2011 01:08 PM, Subhendu Ghosh wrote:
> On 11/15/2011 01:01 PM, Perry Myers wrote:
>> On 11/15/2011 12:24 PM, Barak Azulay wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about
>>> the guest
>>> tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2].
>>>
>>> One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest
>>> agents out
>>> there, and the need to converge the efforts to a single agent that
>>> will serve
>>> all.
>>>
>>> while 4 agents were mentioned (Matahari, vdagent, qemu-ga& 
>>> ovirt-guest-agent)
>>> during that discussion, we narrowed it down to 2 candidates:
>>>
>>> qemu-ga (aka virt-agent):
>>> -------------------------
>>> - Qemu specific - it was aimed for specific qemu needs (mainly
>>> quiesce guest
>>> I/O)
>>> - Communicates directly with qemu  (not implemented yet)
>>> - Supports ?
>>> - So far linux only
>>> - written in C
>>>
>>> Ovirt-guest-agent:
>>> ------------------
>>> - Has been around for a long time (~5 years) - considered stable
>>> - Started as rhevm specific but evolved a lot since then
>>> - Currently the only fully functional guest agent available for ovirt
>>> - Written in python
>>> - Some VDI related sub components are written in C&  C++
>>> - Supports a well defined list of message types / protocol [3]
>>> - Supports the folowing guest OSs
>>>    Linux: RHEL5, RHEL6 F15, F16(soon)
>>>    Windows: xp, 2k3 (32/64), w7 (32/64), 2k8 (32/64/R2)
>>>
>>>
>>> The need to converge is obvious, and now that ovirt-guest-agent is
>>> opensourced
>>> under the ovirt stack, and since it already produces value for
>>> enterprise
>>> installations, and is cross platform, I offer to join hands around
>>> ovirt-
>>> guest-agent and formalize a single code base that will serve us all.
>>>
>>> git @ git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-guest-agent
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> +1
>>
>> The only downside that I concretely heard from folks re:
>> ovirt-guest-agent was that it is written in Python.  Two thoughts there:
>>
>> 1. On Windows it is compiled to an executable, so no separate python
>>     stack needed
>>
>> 2. ovirt-guest-agent is not very large and does not bring in a lot
>>     (any?) additional python class dependencies above/beyond the core
>>     language and interpreter.  Given this, the chances of dealing with
>>     python stack issues are probably minimal and also the overhead of
>>     including _just_ the base python interpreter in a given guest OS is
>>     very lightweight.  Core python RPM in F16 is about 80k.
>>
>> Perry
> 
> If you needed WMI enablement on Windows - could you support that with
> this arch?

I'm not a WMI expert, but google search first result on 'python WMI'
turned up:

http://timgolden.me.uk/python/wmi/index.html

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-15 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-15 17:24 [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 17:33 ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:08   ` Gal Hammer
2011-11-15 18:01 ` Perry Myers
2011-11-15 18:08   ` Subhendu Ghosh
2011-11-15 19:45     ` Perry Myers [this message]
2011-11-16  6:48       ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 19:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 22:39   ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16  7:53     ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-16  8:16       ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:59         ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:11           ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 12:07       ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:45         ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 17:55           ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-17 10:16             ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 13:39       ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:42         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 14:10           ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-17  7:17             ` Itamar Heim
2011-11-17 14:31             ` Jamie Lokier
2011-11-16 13:45     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 19:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 23:01 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16  0:42   ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16  7:05     ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16  8:16       ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16 12:13         ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 15:28           ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16 17:53             ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 21:44               ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17  0:03               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-17  8:59                 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:42                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 10:18   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-16 20:24 ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17  2:09   ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17  8:46   ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:58     ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:58     ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17 16:14       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-17 16:53         ` Eric Gaulin
2011-11-25 19:33         ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 17:09   ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18  0:47     ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-11-17  0:48 ` [Qemu-devel] wiki summary Michael Roth
2011-11-17 16:34   ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 19:58     ` Michael Roth
2011-11-18 11:25       ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18 14:10         ` Adam Litke
2011-11-18 14:21         ` Michael Roth
2011-11-24 12:40       ` Dor Laor
2011-11-24 16:47         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-11-25 10:07         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-27 12:19           ` Dor Laor

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