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From: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Barak Azulay <bazulay@redhat.com>,
	Gal Hammer <ghammer@redhat.com>,
	vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Ayal Baron <abaron@redhat.com>,
	arch@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] converging  around a single guest agent
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:39:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EC3BD12.9000508@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EC3BC67.6030005@codemonkey.ws>

On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 11/15/2011 04:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>>> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start
>>> around
>>> collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of
>>> requirements
>>> are strictly overlapping or if there are any requirements that are
>>> fundamentally
>>> in opposition.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> So vdsm guest agent goal is to ease administration of VMs. This is not
>> saying much as it is quite broad so I will list what is provided today
>> and some things we need to add:
>>
>> Assistance in VM life-cycle:
>> "desktopShutdown" - Shuts the VM down gracefully from within the guest.
>> "quiesce" - does not exist today. This is definitely a requirement for
>> us.
>>
>> SSO support for spice sessions (automatically login into guest OS
>> using provided credentials):
>> "desktopLock" - lock current session, used when spice session gets
>> disconnected / before giving a new user access to spice session
>> "desktopLogin"
>> "desktopLogoff"
>> In addition, guest reports relevant info (currently active user,
>> session state)
>>
>> Monitoring and inventory:
>> currently agent sends info periodically, which includes a lot of info
>> which should probably be broken down and served upon request. Info
>> includes -
>> - memory usage
>> - NICs info (name, hw, inet, inet6)
>> - appslist (list of installed apps / rpms)
>> - OS type
>> - guest hostname
>> - internal file systems info (path, fs type, total space, used space)
>>
>> Personally I think the above should become more generic and support
>> user defined counters (using WMI or collectd in the guest to collect
>> the info and passing it via the guest agent), but that might be a
>> different discussion.
>>
>>
>> From qemu wiki, the following info about qemu guest agent:
>>
>> It's purpose: "Implement support for QMP commands and events that
>> terminate and originate respectively within the guest using an agent
>> built as part of QEMU. "
>> - ties it directly to qemu, but not to specific functionality. ovirt
>> guest agent definitely would need to support this
>>
>> In general, I would say ovirt-guest-agent is scoped to do everything
>> the qemu-guest-agent is and then some, so there is definitely a lot of
>> overlap.
>
> We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the guest
> agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance since we
> want to include an ISO (eventually) that contains binaries.
>
> This could be as simple as doing a git submodule but it would mean that
> the guest agent would have to live in its own git repository. Do you all
> see a problem with this?

Not that I object of placing the code within qemu but I doubt this is a 
requirement, we can settle w/ GPL license for the code.

A requirement of having the agent code reside within qemu is similar to 
some neighbors idea about kvm-tool and the kernel ...

>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony Liguori
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Arch mailing list
>>> Arch@ovirt.org
>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
>>>
>>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-16 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-15 17:24 [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 17:33 ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:08   ` Gal Hammer
2011-11-15 18:01 ` Perry Myers
2011-11-15 18:08   ` Subhendu Ghosh
2011-11-15 19:45     ` Perry Myers
2011-11-16  6:48       ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 19:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 22:39   ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16  7:53     ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-16  8:16       ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:59         ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:11           ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 12:07       ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:45         ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 17:55           ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-17 10:16             ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 13:39       ` Dor Laor [this message]
2011-11-16 13:42         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 14:10           ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-17  7:17             ` Itamar Heim
2011-11-17 14:31             ` Jamie Lokier
2011-11-16 13:45     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 19:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 23:01 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16  0:42   ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16  7:05     ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16  8:16       ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16 12:13         ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 15:28           ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16 17:53             ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 21:44               ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17  0:03               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-17  8:59                 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:42                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 10:18   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-16 20:24 ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17  2:09   ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17  8:46   ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:58     ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:58     ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17 16:14       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-17 16:53         ` Eric Gaulin
2011-11-25 19:33         ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 17:09   ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18  0:47     ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-11-17  0:48 ` [Qemu-devel] wiki summary Michael Roth
2011-11-17 16:34   ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 19:58     ` Michael Roth
2011-11-18 11:25       ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18 14:10         ` Adam Litke
2011-11-18 14:21         ` Michael Roth
2011-11-24 12:40       ` Dor Laor
2011-11-24 16:47         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-11-25 10:07         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-27 12:19           ` Dor Laor

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