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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Barak Azulay <bazulay@redhat.com>,
	Gal Hammer <ghammer@redhat.com>,
	vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Ayal Baron <abaron@redhat.com>,
	arch@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] converging  around a single guest agent
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:55:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EC3F8FA.7010100@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EC3BEF2.9060805@codemonkey.ws>

Hi,

On 11/16/2011 02:47 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 11/16/2011 06:07 AM, Alon Levy wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start
>>>>> around
>>>>> collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of
>>>>> requirements
>>>>> are strictly overlapping or if there are any requirements that are
>>>>> fundamentally
>>>>> in opposition.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>> So vdsm guest agent goal is to ease administration of VMs. This is not saying much as it is quite broad so I will list what is provided today and some things we need to add:
>>>>
>>>> Assistance in VM life-cycle:
>>>> "desktopShutdown" - Shuts the VM down gracefully from within the guest.
>>>> "quiesce" - does not exist today. This is definitely a requirement for us.
>>>>
>>>> SSO support for spice sessions (automatically login into guest OS using provided credentials):
>>>> "desktopLock" - lock current session, used when spice session gets disconnected / before giving a new user access to spice session
>>>> "desktopLogin"
>>>> "desktopLogoff"
>>>> In addition, guest reports relevant info (currently active user, session state)
>>>>
>>>> Monitoring and inventory:
>>>> currently agent sends info periodically, which includes a lot of info which should probably be broken down and served upon request. Info includes -
>>>> - memory usage
>>>> - NICs info (name, hw, inet, inet6)
>>>> - appslist (list of installed apps / rpms)
>>>> - OS type
>>>> - guest hostname
>>>> - internal file systems info (path, fs type, total space, used space)
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> If we're gathering requirements and trying to come up with one agent to rule them all, don't forget
>>> about VDI and the Spice agent. Currently the spice agent handles the following:
>>>
>>> 1) Paravirtual mouse (needed to get mouse coordinates right with multi monitor setups)
>
> I thought there was wide agreement that pv mouse should be extracted from the guest agent into its own driver.

Yes AFAIK there is, but no-one has done that yet. I was merely listening what the spice
agent is doing today, hopefully tomorrow

>
>>> 2) Send client monitor configuration, so that the guest os can adjust its resolution
>>> (and number and place of monitors) to match the client
>
> I also wonder if this should be part of QXL?

That is not really practically since this is something between the client and the guest,
where as the QXL device does communication between the hypervisor (qemu) and the guest.
Also there is a 1 head per QXL device relation, so that would mean that a single qxl dev
needs to be aware of other QXL devices in order to communicate the relative position of
its head to the other heads.

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-16 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-15 17:24 [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 17:33 ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:08   ` Gal Hammer
2011-11-15 18:01 ` Perry Myers
2011-11-15 18:08   ` Subhendu Ghosh
2011-11-15 19:45     ` Perry Myers
2011-11-16  6:48       ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 19:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 22:39   ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16  7:53     ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-16  8:16       ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:59         ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:11           ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 12:07       ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:45         ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 17:55           ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2011-11-17 10:16             ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 13:39       ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:42         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 14:10           ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-17  7:17             ` Itamar Heim
2011-11-17 14:31             ` Jamie Lokier
2011-11-16 13:45     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 19:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 23:01 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16  0:42   ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16  7:05     ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16  8:16       ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16 12:13         ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 15:28           ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16 17:53             ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 21:44               ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17  0:03               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-17  8:59                 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:42                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 10:18   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-16 20:24 ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17  2:09   ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17  8:46   ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:58     ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:58     ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17 16:14       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-17 16:53         ` Eric Gaulin
2011-11-25 19:33         ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 17:09   ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18  0:47     ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-11-17  0:48 ` [Qemu-devel] wiki summary Michael Roth
2011-11-17 16:34   ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 19:58     ` Michael Roth
2011-11-18 11:25       ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18 14:10         ` Adam Litke
2011-11-18 14:21         ` Michael Roth
2011-11-24 12:40       ` Dor Laor
2011-11-24 16:47         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-11-25 10:07         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-27 12:19           ` Dor Laor

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