From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] block: Use bdrv functions to replace file operation in qcow.c
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:08:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ECA3115.9040208@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QUnmGv8sxJhzHV_5sWVird2+OFFvDdMDx0ViaZoCcTc2g@mail.gmail.com>
Am 21.11.2011 11:53, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Am 18.11.2011 15:34, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/18/2011 11:59 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> + tmp = g_malloc0(sizeof(uint64_t)*l1_size);
>>>>>> + ret = bdrv_pwrite(qcow_bs, header_size, tmp,
>>>>>> sizeof(uint64_t)*l1_size);
>>>>>> + g_free(tmp);
>>>>>> + if (ret != sizeof(uint64_t)*l1_size) {
>>>>>> + goto exit;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> That means 400 MB of RAM for the zero L1 table for a 100 TB image.
>>>>> Since qcow is a legacy format this probably doesn't matter in practice
>>>>> but in theory this approach can require a noticable amount of RAM.
>>>>
>>>> 4 MB / TB is not a big deal (you probably would like the L1 table to be in
>>>> memory all the time), but why write the L1 table at all? Since the file was
>>>> CREATed, it is already zero and you can just leave a hole in the file.
>>>
>>> I thought the same thing then remember sometimes people want to use
>>> image formats on block devices. I think at least making image
>>> creation not depend on has_zero_init is a good idea.
>>
>> qcow1 doesn't work on block devices anyway.
>
> Okay, both of my original points were moot, Kevin and Paolo have explained why:
>
> The L1 RAM size issue doesn't really matter since we hold the entire
> L1 in RAM during normal operation anyway. Holding it in RAM during
> creation is no worse.
>
> The zero initialization could be optimized as Paolo suggested with
> truncate since qcow1 always works on image files (which have automatic
> zero initialization).
I didn't say this. :-)
At least in theory, block devices may not be the only protocols with
!has_zero_init. We have only covered raw-posix with this discussion. I
would prefer an explicit write of the table to avoid breaking other
protocols (though I don't think we have one today; curl would be a
candidate, but it is read-only).
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-21 11:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-18 9:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] block: Use bdrv functions to replace file operation in qcow.c Li Zhi Hui
2011-11-18 10:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-18 11:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-18 14:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-21 10:44 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-21 10:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-21 11:08 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2011-11-21 12:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
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