From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] qom: dynamic properties and composition tree
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:42:00 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ED79238.9050504@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ED78D33.5040206@redhat.com>
On 12/01/2011 08:20 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/30/2011 11:03 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> This is a follow up to my previous series to get us started in the QOM
>> direction. A few things are different this time around. Most notably:
>>
>> 1) Devices no longer have names. Instead, path names are always used to
>> identify devices.
>>
>> 2) In order to support (1), dynamic properties are now supported.
>>
>> 3) The concept of a "root device" has been introduced. The root device is
>> roughly modelling the motherboard of a machine. This type is a container
>> type and it's best to think of it as something like a PCB board I guess.
>>
>> To try it out, here's an example session:
>>
>> Launch:
>>
>> anthony@titi:~/build/qemu$ x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 -hda ~/images/linux.img -snapshot -device virtio-balloon-pci,id=foo -qmp unix:/tmp/server.sock,server,nowait
>>
>> Explore the object model:
>>
>> anthony@titi:~/git/qemu/QMP$ ./qom-list /
>> peripheral/
>> i440fx/
>> anthony@titi:~/git/qemu/QMP$ ./qom-list /i440fx/
>> piix3/
>> anthony@titi:~/git/qemu/QMP$ ./qom-list /i440fx/piix3
>> rtc/
>> anthony@titi:~/git/qemu/QMP$ ./qom-list /i440fx/piix3/rtc
>> date
>> base_year
>> anthony@titi:~/git/qemu/QMP$ ./qom-get /i440fx/piix3/rtc.date
>> tm_sec: 33
>> tm_hour: 21
>> tm_mday: 30
>> tm_year: 111
>> tm_mon: 10
>> tm_min: 2
>>
>
> So all of these become ABIs, right?
At first, no. I marked all of these QMP functions as experimental specifically
to avoid introducing a new ABI. I want to give us some time to work out things
out a bit more. But yes, this will eventually become an ABI.
>
> We need good tools to allow easy review of the ABI bits hiding in
> patches, and to maintain ABI compatibility. Something like
> qemu-print-abi that dumps all properties for all devices. Patches could
> show the ABI changes by including a diff of the output of this program
> from before and after a change, and we could add similar tests for
> backwards compatibility.
I'm not sure that we want this interface to be backwards compatible. I actually
think we should provide a higher level interface that's explicitly there for
compatibility. Probably in the form of a C library that can be documented and
reasoned with better.
That turns the problem into something that requires less cleverness.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-01 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-30 21:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] qom: dynamic properties and composition tree Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/18] qom: add new dynamic property infrastructure based on Visitors Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 8:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 15:52 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-02 1:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-02 9:43 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-02 18:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-05 9:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/18] qom: register legacy properties as new style properties Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 8:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 13:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 15:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-02 1:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-02 12:19 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-01 16:14 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-02 1:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/18] qom: introduce root device Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/18] qdev: provide an interface to return canonical path from root Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/18] qdev: provide a path resolution Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 10:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 13:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/18] qom: add child properties (composition) Anthony Liguori
2011-12-02 11:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-02 14:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/18] qom: add link properties Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 10:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 11:21 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-01 11:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-01 13:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 13:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-01 14:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-01 14:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-01 15:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 15:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-01 15:13 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-01 15:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-02 12:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-12-02 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/18] qapi: allow a 'gen' key to suppress code generation Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/18] qmp: add qom-list command Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/18] qom: qom_{get,set} monitor commands Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 11:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/18] qdev: add explicitly named devices to the root complex Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] dev: add an anonymous peripheral container Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/18] rtc: make piix3 set the rtc as a child Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 11:07 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/18] rtc: add a dynamic property for retrieving the date Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 15:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-02 1:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-02 12:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-02 13:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-02 13:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-02 15:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/18] qom: optimize qdev_get_canonical_path using a parent link Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 11:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 13:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/18] Make qmp.py easier to use Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/18] Add test tools Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 11:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-01 13:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 14:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-30 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/18] qdev: split out QOM functions to separate files Anthony Liguori
2011-11-30 22:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] qom: dynamic properties and composition tree Anthony Liguori
2011-12-01 14:20 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-01 14:42 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-12-01 14:48 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-01 15:01 ` Anthony Liguori
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