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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Lluís Vilanova" <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Zhi Yong Wu <zwu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Cam Macdonell <cam@cs.ualberta.ca>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/5] backdoor: [softmmu] Add QEMU-side proxy to "libbackdoor.a"
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:35:38 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EDE98BA.9070902@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ty5d1gfw.fsf@ginnungagap.bsc.es>

On 12/06/2011 04:30 PM, Lluís Vilanova wrote:
> Anthony Liguori writes:
>
>> I really worry about us introducing so many of these one-off paravirtual devices.
>> I would much prefer that you look at doing this as an extension to the ivshmem
>> device as it already has this sort of scope.  You should be able to do this by
>> just extending the size of bar 1 and using a well known guest id.
>
> I did in fact look at ivshmem some time ago, and it's true that both use the
> same mechanisms; but each device has a completely different purpose. To me it
> just seems that extending the control BAR in ivshmem to call the user-provided
> backdoor callbacks is just conflating two completely separate devices into a
> single one. Besides, I think that the qemu-side of the backdoor is simple enough
> to avoid being a maintenance burden.

They have the same purpose (which are both vague TBH).  The only reason I'm 
sympathetic to this device is that virtio-serial has such insane semantics.

It's bad enough we already have two "backdoor" mechanisms, adding a third seems 
insane to me.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Another question would be to join both so that the backdoor can be used to
> orchestrate operations between multiple VMs through ivshmem's server, but I
> really have no time to look into that and don't even know whether it would then
> make sense to join both devices.
>
>
> Thanks,
>    Lluis
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-06 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-05 22:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/5] backdoor: lightweight guest-to-QEMU backdoor channel Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-05 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/5] backdoor: Add documentation Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-06 22:36   ` Peter Maydell
2011-12-06 22:51     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-06 22:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-05 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/5] backdoor: Add build infrastructure Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-05 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/5] backdoor: [*-user] Add QEMU-side proxy to "libbackdoor.a" Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-05 22:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/5] backdoor: [softmmu] " Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-06 19:55   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-06 22:30     ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-06 22:35       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-12-06 22:37         ` Peter Maydell
2011-12-07  8:21         ` [Qemu-devel] Insane virtio-serial semantics (was: [PATCH v2 4/5] backdoor: [softmmu] Add QEMU-side proxy to "libbackdoor.a") Markus Armbruster
2011-12-07 13:49           ` [Qemu-devel] Insane virtio-serial semantics Anthony Liguori
2011-12-07 19:44             ` Michael Roth
2011-12-07 19:53               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-08 10:11                 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-12-08 14:37                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-06 22:39       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/5] backdoor: [softmmu] Add QEMU-side proxy to "libbackdoor.a" Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-05 22:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/5] backdoor: Add guest-side library Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-06 22:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/5] backdoor: lightweight guest-to-QEMU backdoor channel Anthony Liguori
2011-12-07 12:21   ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-07 13:55     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-07 15:23       ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-07 15:48         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-07 16:59           ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-07 17:48             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-07 18:35               ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-07 18:51                 ` Peter Maydell
2011-12-07 18:54                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-07 20:13                     ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-07 22:03                       ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-08 20:45                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-12-08 14:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-08 18:57   ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-08 20:57     ` Blue Swirl
2011-12-08 22:16       ` Lluís Vilanova
2011-12-09 11:23     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-09 20:55       ` Lluís Vilanova

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