From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/16] apic: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:38:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EEFD90A.1000204@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EEFD786.8030609@web.de>
On 12/19/2011 06:32 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-12-20 01:28, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 12/19/2011 05:32 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> struct APICCommonInfo {
>>>> DeviceInfo qdev;
>>>> void (*init)(APICState *s);
>>>> void (*set_base)(APICState *s, uint64_t val);
>>>> void (*set_tpr)(APICState *s, uint8_t val);
>>>> void (*external_nmi)(APICState *s);
>>>> };
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at SCSIDevice for an example of this in practice. This is
>>>> nicer because as we move save/load into devices methods, it becomes
>>>> natural to define the state and save/load function in the base class.
>>>> Provided it only uses base class state, it lets save/load be compatible
>>>> between both in-kernel and in-qemu device model.
>>>
>>> The difference is (unless I completely miss your point) that a common
>>> SCSI base class is used by different derived classes.
>>
>> The 'frontend' is the common code and the 'backend' are the bits that
>> are different, no?
>>
>> We ultimately want there to be two devices that share all of the
>> 'frontend' code by providing different 'backend' implementations.
>>
>> So make the 'frontend' a base class that provides a set of abstract
>> virtual methods (the set you have as the 'backend' interface). Each
>> device instance then inherits from the base class and provides its own
>> implementation of the virtual methods.
>>
>>> Here we have a
>>> common frontend class but different base classes, so to say. And we have
>>> a mechanism to chose where to inherit from on instantiation. Precisely
>>> this allows to keep the compatibility between in-kernel and user space
>>> model in this series.
>>
>> Okay, so I really think this is the problem. The in-kernel APIC is a
>> separate device, no a property of the userspace APIC device.
>>
>> It should be modeled as two separate devices.
>
> That was v1 of my patches. Avi didn't like it, I tried it like this, and
> in the end I had to agree. So, no, I don't think we want such a model.
Yes, we do :-)
The in-kernel APIC is a different implementation of the APIC device. It's not
an "accelerator" for the userspace APIC.
All that you're doing here is reinventing qdev. You're defining your own type
system (APICBackend), creating a new regression system for it, and then defining
your own factory function for creating it (through a qdev property).
I'm struggling to understand the reason to avoid using the infrastructure we
already have to do all of this.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Jan
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-20 0:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-15 12:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] uq/master: Introduce basic irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/16] msi: Generalize msix_supported to msi_supported Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/16] kvm: Move kvmclock into hw/kvm folder Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/16] apic: Stop timer on reset Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/16] apic: Inject external NMI events via LINT1 Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/16] apic: Introduce apic_report_irq_delivered Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/16] apic: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 22:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:38 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-12-20 9:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 13:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-20 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 13:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-20 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 17:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 19:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 21:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 21:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 21:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 21:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 22:20 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 23:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 23:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 14:07 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/16] apic: Open-code timer save/restore Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 22:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 1:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/16] i8259: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/16] ioapic: " Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/16] memory: Introduce memory_region_init_reservation Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/16] kvm: Introduce core services for in-kernel irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/16] kvm: x86: Establish IRQ0 override control Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel APIC Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel i8259 Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 15/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel IOAPIC Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 16/16] kvm: Arm in-kernel irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 21:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] uq/master: Introduce basic " Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-19 22:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:37 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 10:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 1:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 1:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 1:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 2:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 3:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 8:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 10:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
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