From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] uq/master: Introduce basic irqchip support
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:42:22 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EEFD9EE.9010709@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EEFD8D1.3060707@web.de>
On 12/19/2011 06:37 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-12-20 01:32, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 12/19/2011 05:49 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> On 2011-12-19 23:24, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>> On 12/19/2011 03:17 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please review& ACK?
>>>>>
>>>>> You could even apply directly but well do a kvm-autotest run through
>>>>> uq/master. Still, your review is needed.
>>>>
>>>> Overall, it looks good except for the backend/frontend split. This
>>>> should be done in terms of qdev inheritance.
>>>
>>> I cannot follow your idea here yet. There is no inheritance as we end up
>>> with only a single class that permutes (selects a different backend) on
>>> creation. I'm not sure how to model two classes that will still only
>>> mean a single qdev registration.
>>
>> See other reply in thread.
>>
>> We should model this as two separate qdev devices. We can avoid
>> regressing migration in qemu-kvm by just having a common vmstate name.
>>
>> apic is a no-user device so there's no way that changing the name of it
>> in qemu-kvm can affect users.
>
> Look down http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.kvm.devel/82598
> for the discussion of that model.
I have. I don't understand the rationale for jumping through hoops here.
There seems to be an assertion that migrating from in-kernel APIC to userspace
APIC is an important use case. I don't really see how that's true.
But nonetheless, the direction migration is heading is not just to migrate the
QOM path names to identify devices, but to provide a way to introspect the
device model, transfer the current device model description to the other end,
and create the device model on the destination.
This is the only way to reliably support things like hot-plug during live
migration which is something we punt to management tools (which really can't
implement it properly).
So we'll already be migrating the apic backend property which means that you are
not going to have migration to and from in-kernel APIC and userspace APIC
without some sort of in-between translation layer (which could just as easily
change the device names).
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Jan
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-20 0:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-15 12:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] uq/master: Introduce basic irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/16] msi: Generalize msix_supported to msi_supported Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/16] kvm: Move kvmclock into hw/kvm folder Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/16] apic: Stop timer on reset Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/16] apic: Inject external NMI events via LINT1 Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/16] apic: Introduce apic_report_irq_delivered Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/16] apic: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 22:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 9:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 13:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-20 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 13:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-20 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 17:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 19:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 21:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 21:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 21:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 21:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 22:20 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 23:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 23:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 14:07 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/16] apic: Open-code timer save/restore Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 22:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 1:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/16] i8259: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/16] ioapic: " Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/16] memory: Introduce memory_region_init_reservation Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/16] kvm: Introduce core services for in-kernel irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/16] kvm: x86: Establish IRQ0 override control Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel APIC Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel i8259 Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 15/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel IOAPIC Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 16/16] kvm: Arm in-kernel irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 21:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] uq/master: Introduce basic " Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-19 22:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:37 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-12-20 10:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 1:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 1:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 1:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 2:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 3:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 8:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 10:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
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