From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/16] apic: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:54:05 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EF0937D.3090207@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EF092D2.6080009@redhat.com>
On 12/20/2011 07:51 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 12/20/2011 02:41 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 12/20/2011 03:56 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2011 02:38 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>>> That was v1 of my patches. Avi didn't like it, I tried it like this,
>>>>> and
>>>>> in the end I had to agree. So, no, I don't think we want such a model.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we do :-)
>>>>
>>>> The in-kernel APIC is a different implementation of the APIC device.
>>>> It's not an "accelerator" for the userspace APIC.
>>>
>>> A different implementation but not a different device. Device == spec.
>>
>> If it was hardware, it'd be a fully compatible clone. The way we would
>> model this is via inheritance.
>
> I see your fully compatible clone, and I raise my bridge with a different
> implementation underneath. It's the same old debate on is-a vs has-a.
>
> In QOM parlance Jan implemented this:
>
> abstract class Object
> abstract class Device
> class APIC: { backend: link<APICBackend> }
> abstract class APICBackend
> class QEMU_APICBackend
> class KVM_APICBackend
I don't fundamentally object to modeling it like this provided that it's modeled
(and visible) through qdev and not done through a one-off infrastructure.
But yes, you are exactly correct in your observation (and that both can be right).
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> and you're proposing this:
>
> abstract class Object
> abstract class Device
> abstract class APIC
> class QEMU_APIC
> class KVM_APIC
>
> Both can be right, both can be wrong.
>
> Paolo
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-20 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-15 12:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] uq/master: Introduce basic irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/16] msi: Generalize msix_supported to msi_supported Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/16] kvm: Move kvmclock into hw/kvm folder Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/16] apic: Stop timer on reset Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/16] apic: Inject external NMI events via LINT1 Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/16] apic: Introduce apic_report_irq_delivered Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/16] apic: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 22:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 9:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 13:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-20 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-12-20 13:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-20 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 17:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 19:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 21:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 21:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 21:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 21:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 22:20 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 23:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 23:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 14:07 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/16] apic: Open-code timer save/restore Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 22:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 1:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/16] i8259: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/16] ioapic: " Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/16] memory: Introduce memory_region_init_reservation Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/16] kvm: Introduce core services for in-kernel irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/16] kvm: x86: Establish IRQ0 override control Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel APIC Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel i8259 Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 15/16] kvm: x86: Add user space part for in-kernel IOAPIC Jan Kiszka
2011-12-15 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 16/16] kvm: Arm in-kernel irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-12-19 21:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] uq/master: Introduce basic " Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-19 22:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-19 23:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 0:37 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 10:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 1:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 1:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 1:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 2:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 3:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-20 8:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-12-20 10:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-20 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
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