From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd0MQ-00050s-8F for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:08:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd0MP-0004FO-0z for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:08:06 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:12280) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd0MO-0004F7-QL for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:08:04 -0500 Message-ID: <4EF096BD.70201@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:07:57 +0200 From: Avi Kivity MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4EEFB72E.7030508@codemonkey.ws> <4EEFC970.9030205@web.de> <4EEFD69F.6080700@codemonkey.ws> <4EEFD786.8030609@web.de> <4EEFD90A.1000204@codemonkey.ws> <4EF05BC4.8010905@redhat.com> <4EF09078.2030508@codemonkey.ws> <4EF092D2.6080009@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF092D2.6080009@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/16] apic: Introduce backend/frontend infrastructure for KVM reuse List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Paolo Bonzini Cc: Anthony Liguori , kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Marcelo Tosatti , qemu-devel , Blue Swirl , Jan Kiszka On 12/20/2011 03:51 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 12/20/2011 02:41 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> On 12/20/2011 03:56 AM, Avi Kivity wrote: >>> On 12/20/2011 02:38 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >>>>> That was v1 of my patches. Avi didn't like it, I tried it like this, >>>>> and >>>>> in the end I had to agree. So, no, I don't think we want such a >>>>> model. >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, we do :-) >>>> >>>> The in-kernel APIC is a different implementation of the APIC device. >>>> It's not an "accelerator" for the userspace APIC. >>> >>> A different implementation but not a different device. Device == spec. >> >> If it was hardware, it'd be a fully compatible clone. The way we would >> model this is via inheritance. > > I see your fully compatible clone, and I raise my bridge with a > different implementation underneath. It's the same old debate on is-a > vs has-a. > > In QOM parlance Jan implemented this: QOM is the new C++ > > abstract class Object > abstract class Device > class APIC: { backend: link } > abstract class APICBackend > class QEMU_APICBackend > class KVM_APICBackend > > and you're proposing this: > > abstract class Object > abstract class Device > abstract class APIC > class QEMU_APIC > class KVM_APIC > > Both can be right, both can be wrong. I don't mind either. What I don't want: abstract class Object abstract class Device class APIC class KVMAPIC -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function